Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze
How can FR people be so stupid as to think these 2 men are selling out our national security on this deal? Rather, they are reienforcing our national security.
FR is getting so shallow it is scarcely to be believed. Unfortunately, the "nuke them all" crowd is alive and well here.
Of course not. But NO ONE IS PROPOSING THAT.
So you think mooring a carrier pier side there is wise huh? Use the PI's for the yard work as has been the long standing tradition. As ex-Navy myself maybe you can answer this question. Where did the COLE bombers learn exactly where to hit the ship or any ship to do the most damage possible? Nah couldn't have been in a shipyard../sarcasm It seems our leaders learned nothing about port security from that attack. The arrogance in the belief that no one would dare attack a U.S. Navy ship continues. Why leave them vunerable? A ship is most vunerable in tow places. One being at a per but especially so in a shipyard as all hatches etc are opened up and D.C. capabilities & water tight integrity is Nil.
BTW have you ever seen just how fast a ship even an aircraft carrier can get underway anchored rather than moored to a pier in an emergency? Do you realize the logistics of even getting a carrier away from a pier and underway and the time and coordination with the locals that is needed? A carrier anchored can be underway in the time it takes to hoist the anchor. As a matter of fact the screws can be turning gettting it uderway while the anchor is coming up. I've seen it happen myself. That means underway and out of port in a very few minutes and not hours. IOW in the time incoming attack is picked up on radar the carrier can be getting underway and ready to launch planes. The one moored will be still waiting on tugs.
The US has no involvement in the internal policing of the UAE.
So why would these 'terrorists' allow our country to refuel our WAR VESSELS at their port and host an airbase that was used in the attacks on Iraq?
Look, I work for a major major international transportation company. There are tens of thousands of muslims on the ground in the transportation system capable (at least theoretically) of enormous damage and mayhem. They know "security systems" a lot more intimately than any executive under a palm tree in Dubai. Your focus is totally wrong. It's" bottoms-up" infiltration you should be worried about, because it's 10,000 times easier, and cheap. These folks already have access to our methods and data.
THat's like sleeping with your neighbor's wife and then being upset with him because he doesn't invite you over to dinner.
The dark little secret is that like a large percentage of Americans, a large percentage of Freepers are underinformed, uniformed, or downright ignorant.
It is not a failed business deal! It was a successful business deal that is being destroyed by changing existing laws and playing politics. That is whay the UAE is resorting to this. The US Congress has decided to make some deals more fair than others. The UAE has every right to be pissed.
Gotta Go to an appointment. Have a nice day. And I mean that, because I wish no ill on you this day, nor any other.
Since just after the election in 11/04, when Republicans started turning on the president and did absolutely nothing to defend him against the leftist lies, my husband and I have told every caller and completed every envelope requesting $$ from the RNC that when our people start stepping up to the plate, we'll donate again. Until then...zippo.
We started it.
I think there are some who actually think these threats of retaliation will make some who oppose the deal change their minds? Go figure.
So all we had to do was nix ONE contract to destroy all that "trust" we've built with all our other business dealings with UAE?
This has all the earmarks of someone who throws a tantrum NOT because they were denied what they wanted, but because there's an ulterior motive which they've spent all this time working towards -- and now they can't have it.
Whether there is or isn't an ulterior motive, their doing their best to act like these is.
BTTT
Stop being a crybaby. This is the internet.
I have no idea if the courts would have reason to get involved. I suppose UAE could file suit...? ... Any thoughts cboldt?
At this "political" level, the courts don't have a case. Eller (P&O's Miami operation) sued in London to stop the sale, and was tossed out of court there.
They also sued in the US, but on a business angle. If an administrative agency steps in and enforces the law in a way that permits a lawsuit, then I expect there will be one. So far, there hasn't been any enforcement action (relating to the sale) against P&O or DPW.
I haven't bothered trying to postulate realistic solutions to this political idiocy (yes, I mean idiocy, not ideology - all of the pols are acting stupid), but I am sure there are many of them.
THESE Arabs have meant EXACTLY what they've said. They have promised help in our time of need and DELIVERED even though it meant placing themselves in the sights of the Terror movement. Yet you join the Party of Treason's Conga Line to piss on them and expect them to like it.
Another great post. It would not bother them one bit if Israel was blown off the map and America brought to her knees.
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