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Dubai threat to hit back (UAE Threatens Against Boeing and US Bases Support)
The Hill.com ^ | March 9, 2006 | Roxana Tiron

Posted on 03/09/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by prairiebreeze

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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

They're not ignorant...they're blatantly anti-mid east. IT doesn't matter if friend or foe, if they're arab they've got to go. Some would call it racism. I would too. It's sick and sad and sets up for continued losses for the GOP.


201 posted on 03/09/2006 9:34:59 AM PST by Solson (magnae clunes mihi placent, nec possum de hac re mentiri.)
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To: inkling

Yes, I tend to agree that we ought to be promoting a strong relationship with the UAE. Their population seems to be rather on the fence between civilization and radical Islam, but I think the government/ruling family are really on the side of civilization, and doing their best to nudge their masses in the right direction.

If we had absolutely awesome security at our ports, there would be a better argument for a policy against allowing any degree of control by governments of foreign countries with shaky loyalties. However, with the infamous Department of Homeland Security having a lot of responsibility for port security, with or without DP taking over operational/managerial control, and Chinese and Saudi companies having similar control over other U.S. ports, it's pretty hard to justify the avalanche of opposition to the proposed arrangement with DP.

This whole thing is starting to look like a bipartisan conspiracy to build a pre-election (2006) smokescreen, behind which to hide the miserable state of the federal government's national security programs, for which both parties bear plenty of responsibility. I also strongly suspect that the UAE government provided some assurances to Bush administration officials, that have not been and cannot be made public, due to popular political sensitivities in the UAE. I'm willing to accept that we can't know all the details, and that if Condi isn't against it, it's almost certainly fine to proceed. If she were against it, I think President Bush would have back-pedalled fast when the firestorm first hit.


202 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:02 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: prairiebreeze
I gotta say I really think this is _still_ our administrations fault. They already knew all these facets about the deal and chose to roll over from the start. At the start was the right time to shut the process down, do what a man has to do. When the sale (A) was 1st proposed and the resulting port management takeover (B) was obviously recognized, all the parties should have been notified that cause (A) does not result in effect (B). Instead the undercover, covert, sly, how do we play with fire machinations which have come undone.

Seriously, a good Christian man doesn't do business this way. He does what he says, says what he does and what he does is not full of moneyed, buy your friends deals.

If America can only survive with dark side money games, I tell you today that America has already fallen. The Lord tells us (heavy paraphrase) "It matter not who watches the walls, if the Lord is not on their side".

203 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:07 AM PST by veracious
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To: tiredoflaundry

LOL!


204 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:09 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Old Media: today's carnival barkers.)
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To: prairiebreeze

I am!

I would trust a Muslim like I would trust a rattlesnake. These people have more money than brains. Boeing should be glad to be rid of them because, no doubt, down the line they'd sue Boeing for some glitch in the manufacturing of the airliners and want all their money back.


205 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:14 AM PST by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Junior_G
"Let them bleat, but keep our ports out of their hands. "
OK..........Who's hands are we gonna put 'in????American companies won't touch 'em ( can't make a buck dealing with the longshoremen and their archaic work rules ) ALL our ports are operated by foreign owned companies. Simple economics, free trade is a 2 way street. Are the most arrogant people on this thread going to deny this? What you are saying to UAE is, go ahead and spend tens or even hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars on american products,but we will not allow you to invest and/or make any money here. The dems have been searching for 5 years to find an issue that most people are completely ignorant of, and will react without reason to. Looks like they finally found it. And, oh, by the way, looks like both the clintooons are making money off of this deal, too. If that don't make you suspicious, then your head is too far in the sand.
206 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:18 AM PST by joe fonebone (Woodstock defined the current crop of libs, but who cleaned up the mess they left?)
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To: michigander
"A source close to the deal said ... ...the source said. Be suspicious of an anonymous source, unless they're saying what you want to hear eh?"

Maybe this is the White House's way of putting pressure on any oposition to the port deal? Tinfoil hat alert!
207 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:28 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: rlmorel


"I've said it before and I'll say it again: Democracy simply doesn't work."
208 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:34 AM PST by Cyclopean Squid (History is a work in progress)
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To: winner3000
The UAE is a close to being a Europeanazed country as there is in the Middle East.

Not even close. Did the fact that the UAE is despotic ("family-run") escape your notice? The most "Europeanized" country in the ME is Israel, followed by Turkey, Lebanon, and now Iraq.

209 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:36 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody would have cared if the UAE wanted to buy Macy's...)
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To: Kjobs

Hon, if you honestly believe that, you need to take an economics course immediately.


210 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:39 AM PST by Peach
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Yeah I know I typod when I wrote it. feel free to ignore the underlying thought.


211 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:44 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: clawrence3

"I thought you said a massive global trade war was not even possible?"

Wow. you keeping score? I don't remember so I must peruse my ramblings and get back with you.


212 posted on 03/09/2006 9:35:49 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?")
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To: mystery-ak

Yes. There's a thread right now that the UAE agreed to monitor Iran. I just left a message on the thread that they agreed to that before. I'm sure that's a dead issue now.


213 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:14 AM PST by Peach
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To: winner3000
The UAE is a close to being a Europeanized country as there is in the Middle East.

Only because EUrabia is swiftly becoming another outpost of a revived Caliphate.

Believe me, that's not an endorsement.

Far from it.

214 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:22 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: TomGuy

Look at it this way...

WHO exactly, stands to gain by embarrassing the President?

Hillary.

that's why Chuckie Schumer is taking such a big cheerleading role in this. He knows he won't be President, but he probably figures HIllary has a chance.

way to go.

and it isn't splitting both parties. The dems played this CORRECTLY. They turned the right wing and the GOP in on itself and now they are watching the explosion.

They've engineered the GOP into supporting a position that hurts us both Strategically (losing an ally and believe me that ally is now gone unless something drastic happens) and Tactically (another port in the storm is gone, possibly some big aircraft contracts as well as a LOT of money that would have come into our economy).

Bad Day. FReepers are aligned with Chuck Schumer. As IF HE'S EVER given a damn about the Military or the country.


215 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:33 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Imagine this: FReepers aligned with Chuckie Schumer hurt our troops in the ME. Sad Days.....)
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To: jaydubya2
Tinfoil hat alert!

Hmmmmmmmm?????

216 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:39 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
We've allowed our internal political BS to bleed over to harming an ally. Why should the UAE just take it in the shorts?

No, we've allowed globalist greed to interfere with sound decision-making related to national security. It never should have reached the point where we got in a pissing war over whether or not some Islamic nation was going to be managing our port operations. The fact that there was ever even a need for this debate is preposterous.

217 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:40 AM PST by Junior_G
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To: prairiebreeze

Where are the statesmen that used to put our country's interests foremost. Now they just have kneejerk reactions for their own election interests. At least Bush is a Statesman. He may be wrong sometimes, but, I believe he puts the his country's interests above his own. When he vetoes this bill it will be the right thing to do, but he is going to really get hurt politically.


218 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:44 AM PST by AUsome Joy
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To: Peach

You are correct, Peach.


219 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:44 AM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: cookcounty

http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20050604-120011-6570r.htm

These are our "friends".


220 posted on 03/09/2006 9:36:49 AM PST by mlc9852
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