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Flashback - December 13, 2004: Dubai, U.A.E., Joins U.S. Container Security Initiative (State Dept.)
US Department of State ^ | December 13. 2004

Posted on 02/21/2006 2:43:48 PM PST by new yorker 77

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To: Howlin
LOL! Yes, it's been a trying day here today.

I've done a little research and I find no red flags except that "UAE once supported the Taliban."

Yes, and we supported both Iran, Iraq and Russia at times as well as the pre-Taliban mujahadeen.

This is simply the Dems and MSM's latest gothcha. As I've said, if W, Rummy and Peter Pace are OK with this, so am I.

81 posted on 02/21/2006 4:32:12 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: new yorker 77

Great find.


82 posted on 02/21/2006 4:33:04 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: new yorker 77

I feel safe /sarcasm.


83 posted on 02/21/2006 4:33:12 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: Indy Pendance

Exactly.

People do not understand this field of business.

Many companys do not see a profit in controlling ports.

Who is looking to grow in this industry?

Growing economies.


84 posted on 02/21/2006 4:33:25 PM PST by new yorker 77 (Conservatives who eat their own are a liberal's best friend.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; Howlin; Miss Marple; onyx

Very interesting. Thank you for that.


85 posted on 02/21/2006 4:33:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: Miss Marple

I trusted the POTUS and campaigned for him in 2000. I have prayed for him every day since 9/11. I backed him as my CinC. I labored tirelessly for him in 2004. I trust him and his team on national security issues a bit more than Schumer et al. I will give the POTUS the benefit of the doubt on this one.


86 posted on 02/21/2006 4:36:50 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: McGavin999

I'll keep on keepin' on until they plant me. I love this Nation far too much not to be actively engaged in her fate. We all need to fight harder now than ever before. I really appreciate your comments.

LLS


87 posted on 02/21/2006 4:37:00 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; McGavin999


Thank you both!


88 posted on 02/21/2006 4:37:16 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx
I've had 3 main questions/thoughts running through my head;

1. We have no control over this sale, only the issuing of the contracts. This sale will affect every port that P&O manages, not just ours. Is that correct? The reports make it sound like we just sold 6 ports to DPW.

2. What control does P&O have over the infrastructure and hardware of the port operations? If we pull their contract, can they just shut down the ports until someone fills the roll?

3. How long would it take to fill the void if we pulled the contracts? What effect would that have on our economy?

It would seem that interfering in this process would have some extreme ramifications and isn't something I would want to rush into.

89 posted on 02/21/2006 4:38:30 PM PST by Can i say that here?
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I agree with you, and have done exactly the same thing. I want to know the facts surrounding this deal, but I have faith in President Bush and those he has so carefully chosen to lead with.

LLS


90 posted on 02/21/2006 4:40:12 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: new yorker 77

Thanks for the search. I need some time on this one.


91 posted on 02/21/2006 4:41:42 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: 1035rep

Shillary was just on Fox bitchin' about Bush. There has to be some reason to side with him. Stand down!


92 posted on 02/21/2006 4:43:00 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: new yorker 77

It's my understanding that there is no US company that does this.....


93 posted on 02/21/2006 4:44:43 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: gathersnomoss
Shillary was just on Fox bitchin' about Bush.

Of course she is...That's about all the serpent knows how to do is bitch and whine. Now that I think about, that describes all liberals

94 posted on 02/21/2006 4:53:03 PM PST by 1035rep
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
How you answer that question is a gauge of how wrapped up around the axle you will get on this issue.

In fairness to the folks screaming on this issue, I wonder if the conservative base is just getting tired of having to sneak in the backdoor all of the time.

For instance, Harriet Miers. Did Bush really want Miers, or was it a run around to put Roberts in? If he really wanted Miers, you have to wonder about his judgement. If it was a ploy to get Roberts up there, when in the world are we going to be able to act like the majority party?

I'm not foolish enough to think that I get politics, but some times, all this strategery just wears people out.

95 posted on 02/21/2006 4:54:29 PM PST by Can i say that here?
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To: McGavin999

I don't know for sure. There was talk about the Chinese company getting the port of Long Beach a few years ago. I don't know if it went through or not.


96 posted on 02/21/2006 4:55:56 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Can i say that here?
when in the world are we going to be able to act like the majority party?

When the MSM starts covering the Republicans like they actually won.

When Republican politicians grow gonads.

When pigs fly.

97 posted on 02/21/2006 4:58:30 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Can i say that here?
I prefer to think that Harriet Miers was a mistake, chiefly because of misjudging how much the conservative media twits would get in a snit.

Everyone makes a bad call now and then. I once bought a pair of hot pants; yet everyone today knows me as a woman of good taste.

98 posted on 02/21/2006 4:59:52 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: new yorker 77

It turns out that an anti-Israeli foundation run by the crown prince of Dubai owns the very deed to CAIR's headquarters located almost in the shadow of the U.S. Capitol. The foundation has held telethons to support families of Palestinian suicide bombers.

The MSM keeps pressing the above statement but, it means nothing.See the property ownership rules for Dubai- here- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai#Real_estate_and_property
It's like saying someone in the USA that was renting ground from the state is part of that state in mind set.

Iranian expatriates alone are estimated to have invested up to $US 200 Billion in Dubai.[10]
Nearly all of the commercial establishments are run by expatriates with a silent local partner who merely "rents" the business license for a negotiated annual fee without taking part in any capital investment. The numerous free trade zones allow for full expatriate ownership.

There is an increasing number of "freehold" villas and flats on artificial islands such as the Palm Islands. The "lease" on these freehold properties was first offered for 99 years but was later changed to permanent ownership. It is, however, illegal to seek employment on this visa. Ownership of lease does not guarantee any form of legal residency status in the UAE. The Federal Government is still formulating laws pertaining to ownership of property and considering issuing residency status to those who own such property.


Dubai interests have also purchased large amounts of real estate in foreign countries, in particular snapping up trophy properties in global centers like New York and London; a typical purchase in 2005 was New York's 230 Park Avenue (formerly known as the New York Central Building or the Helmsley Building) and Essex House on Central Park South.
A quarter of the population reportedly trace their origins to neighboring Iran.[5] The UAE government does not allow any form of naturalization or permanent residence to expatriates.

This needs to be looked at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai#Real_estate_and_property

Oil reserves in Dubai are less than one-twentieth that of the emirate of Abu Dhabi, and oil income is now only a small proportion of the city's income. Dubai and its twin across the Dubai creek, Deira (independent at that time), became important ports of call for Western manufacturers.


99 posted on 02/21/2006 5:01:05 PM PST by BlueHeaven (http://www.swannforgovernor.com/calendar/)
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To: Miss Marple; All
Hi Miss Marple. This thread makes more sense than anything I have read all day long or heard on the radio or t.v.
I still have that lingering question however, why don't our congress critters get it?
Mine just came out against the port take over last night on local t.v and she's a pubbie? What happened, who dropped the ball!
100 posted on 02/21/2006 5:45:08 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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