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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Tuesday Feb 21st 2006
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Posted on 02/21/2006 8:40:01 AM PST by MNJohnnie

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to be quite honest with everyone I am not overly concerned who runs the port as long as an orderlyflro of shipemsnin and out occurs. As has been poited out berfore Homeland security the cost guard and others are in charge of security.

What I do care about is staying in power after the 06 elections. To do that we should be working together a bit better at least communications wise than we are now IMHO.
261 posted on 02/21/2006 12:05:24 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: DC Ripper
But you see, the people who understand the port deal are not arguing. There is nothing to argue about. You cant have a debate when only one side knows what they are talking about. It is a unique American thing, that some will indeed want to argue or debate, though devoid of any facts. It is for those who object, who should be providing an argument. Instead, they use guilt by association, racism and xenophobia as valid reasons for opposing the deal. No facts at all. That is why I have stopped arguing with them, and only mock their position.
262 posted on 02/21/2006 12:05:27 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: rodguy911

Gosh...if we really wanted to start a conspiracy theory...we could say that President Bush, Cheney, and Rove...knowing that Bush can't, and Cheney won't run in 2008....

AND, seeing that not very many (if any) GOP Congresscritters have even attempted to help get his Social Security or Energy programs, or (for better or worse) his guest worker program any traction...

HE isn't going to expend any energy getting the facts out on this...which, like you said...COULD be a loser public relations wise...but, in the end...not be that bad of a business deal..

I know I am just throwing stuff up here...but, just like the NSA thing..some of these GOPers, like Specter..who Bush campaigned for..IMMEDIATELY came out against him...instead of getting his POV first...


263 posted on 02/21/2006 12:12:30 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Pukin Dog

In other words, "Just trust the President."

The same argument that was used during the Harriet Miers debacle.

I see.


264 posted on 02/21/2006 12:12:43 PM PST by DC Ripper
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To: sofaman

Hey sofa...I am feeling better ( I think). With the pain pills, I'm not feeling much at all. LOL


265 posted on 02/21/2006 12:15:07 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: DC Ripper

It turned out alright, didn't it....we ended up with Alito.


266 posted on 02/21/2006 12:16:15 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: MNJohnnie
YOU people are demanding the President explain himself. He is under NO obligation.

YOU people demand unquestioning support of the Executive Branch. I am under NO obligation.

The Congress set up a committee with the Executive to investigate the National Security aspects. They did THEIR job. Too bad the Congress decided to ignore that to grandstand for the cameras.

Congress acting political? Shocked, I'm shocked I tell you.

Yes, sometimes you have to think about how something will play in Peoria. It's a shame that the person who took time to think about this as a political issue was Chuck Schumer.

267 posted on 02/21/2006 12:17:45 PM PST by NeoCaveman (If it's (Sherrod) Brown, flush it)
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To: LibertyLee

Monday, Feb. 20, 2006 12:02 p.m. EST
Peter King: Dubai Ports Company in 'al-Qaida Heartland'


House Homeland Security Committee chairman Peter King ratcheted up the rhetoric Monday morning on the Bush administration's decision to permit Dubai Ports World to control six major U.S. ports, saying the company is based in "the heartland of al-Qaida."

"By having a company right out of the heartland of al-Qaida managing those ports without being properly cleared or investigated, to me is madness," Rep. King told ABC News.

King cited "a number of reports about the port of Dubai itself, about weapons going through that port, to Iran, about corruption, and again about an al-Qaida presence. And I know there was no real investigation done on this matter."

King said he intends to ask President Bush to "freeze the contract [on the ports takeover], put it on hold, take no action till a full and complete investigation is done."

The Dubai company's ports takeover was approved last month by the Committee on Foreign Investment, headed by Treasury Secretary John Snow.

Over the weekend, both Homeland Security czar Michael Chertoff and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice insisted that the Dubai ports deal had been thoroughly reviewed and posed no threat to national security.

During an appearance on ABC's "This Week," however, Chertoff said he couldn't discuss details of the review because they were classified.

Rep. King said approval of the controversial deal was granted because "bureaucrats" had applied pre-9/11 standards.

"This is a classic situation, I think, of bureaucrats who just missed the boat here," he explained. "This went through. They were applying business as usual [rules] and they forgot it was post-9/11."

Unless President Bush intervenes, the Dubai ports takeover is set to commence on March 1.


268 posted on 02/21/2006 12:17:53 PM PST by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: Txsleuth

>>It turned out alright, didn't it....we ended up with Alito.<<

Yes we did. Fortunately. But if Bush had his way, we would have had Harriet Miers.

Never forget that.


269 posted on 02/21/2006 12:31:37 PM PST by DC Ripper
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To: DC Ripper
No, there you go with a stupid argument.

It aint about trusting the President. Its about understanding why this deal was made; information you can find anywhere if you weren't to lazy to look for it.

270 posted on 02/21/2006 12:45:31 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: DC Ripper
You would have NEVER had Harriet Miers. Only the truly nutty think she had a chance in hell of getting through the committee. She was a setup, and how some of you don't get that, is just stunning. Harriet Miers made Alito possible in the current political climate. The left got suckered. You wait until the next nomination, because it is Gonzales' for the taking.
271 posted on 02/21/2006 12:48:55 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog
information you can find anywhere if you weren't to lazy to look for it.

Okay. How's this?

Aerospace industry is next on list for Dubai's soaring ambitions

Not much else to be found except about the controversy itself, but this does give a little background on Dubai. Here's a snippet from the above article:

What American politicians are not able to do is to differentiate between liberal, open, economically dynamic Dubai and its conservative, moribund, oil-rich neighbours.

Dubai has little oil. That is why it had to find another money-spinner. Taking city-states such as Singapore and Hong Kong as a model, the emirate has created a business and tourist centre, from a very unpromising creak and strip of desert, over the last two or three decades.


272 posted on 02/21/2006 1:09:32 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: rodguy911
Why aren't we hearing more about that fact, that we "do" run port security. Why isn't that message getting out.It would sure help.

If the UAE is running the ports, they'll know how we run port security.

The Fox might not be running security for the hen house, but giving him an office inside with the chickens isn't a good idea either.

273 posted on 02/21/2006 1:56:04 PM PST by GOPJ (Quisling editors show all the nobility of crack whores over cartoon publication.)
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To: A.Hun

Good find. This passed through my mind yesterday but thought naaaaaah. Interesting.


274 posted on 02/21/2006 3:16:30 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: daybreakcoming

Thank you...I'm still looking for more. If you spot anything interesting, please let me know.


275 posted on 02/21/2006 3:30:11 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Will do and you also. This could be quite the mess. Right now, I don't see a happy ending either way.


276 posted on 02/21/2006 3:38:46 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: daybreakcoming
Right now, I don't see a happy ending either way.

Me either. Right or wrong, I'm afraid Bush is gonna get hurt. I don't think he really cares though, the pounding he has gotten on every thing else...

277 posted on 02/21/2006 3:49:38 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun

Did you see Bush when he "waved the veto pen" (as someone else called it)? I think we got a glimpse of some anger. And who can blame him after the pounding he takes not only from the demos and media, but the kneejerking part of his base.


278 posted on 02/21/2006 6:38:21 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: MNJohnnie
Rush Limbaugh carefully avoided to discuss the issue of our ports being sold to the UAE last week, however, today, it appeared he was ready to discuss this issue.

It seemed a bit to peppered with talking points. He also appeared to be telling his loyal listeners, of which I am proud to say I am one since Summer of 1994, that we should be more open to accepting the pros he offered for the buyout.

I personally, don't know why in the first place America sold our ports to foreign countries. I was astonished to hear that the Brits owned them before this sale to UAE.

I thought George Washington kicked the Brits out of America in 1776?

So when, why, and how much, and who did this in the first place?

279 posted on 02/21/2006 9:08:05 PM PST by harpo11
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To: daybreakcoming

Sorry for the late response...I have a feeling Bush is about fed up with this stuff. He doesn't have to do a thing but follow his conscience.

For me that's fine...I trust him. It is the "illegal immigrant" portion of conservatives that love to bash him.

oh well....


280 posted on 02/22/2006 6:54:08 AM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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