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"Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
1 posted on 02/18/2006 1:46:56 PM PST by freepatriot32
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Ping.


62 posted on 02/18/2006 5:09:29 PM PST by elkfersupper
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Living the outlaw life: Freeing your inner outlaw
63 posted on 02/18/2006 5:17:55 PM PST by inneroutlaw
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I just bought 200 sq. ft. of Reynolds Wrap.....I should be safe!


67 posted on 02/18/2006 5:28:06 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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Born criminals are some of the most danagerious types of people there are because they have no guilt in being criminals because the government deemed them criminals for simply existing.


92 posted on 02/18/2006 6:25:52 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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I have one near certain way to tell if someone REALLY wants a law against some (usually) trivial percieved transgression or other. Do you mind, if in the course of enforcing this law that a law enforcement officer lawfully kills the offender as he or she resists him? I am aware that as a matter of law that an officer is legally justified in using deadly force against a suspect only when he or she is in reasonable apprehension of death or serious bodily harm from the suspects actions, justifying immediate deadly force. Nonetheless, I would feel pretty bad if the reason that the killing came about is because some petty tyrant on the city council arm twisted his peers to illegalize the wearing of baseball caps on Sundays. I have found this question a pretty reliable indicator of someone's true feelings about a law.

As a LEO in Chicago, I have had innumerable dust-ups which ensued over enforcing some petty ordinance. I do feel that some petty ordinances such as disturbing the peace and disorderly conduct (as they impinge upon public order and other persons enjoyment of the public and private realms) ARE worth the possibility of such grim outcomes, but 50-60% of these idiotic laws are not.


114 posted on 02/18/2006 7:37:06 PM PST by DMZFrank
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This sounds like Soviet Russia.


122 posted on 02/18/2006 7:59:41 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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In Burlington, Vermont, police are ticketing people for not removing keys from the ignition and locking their cars. Police said the state law prevents car thefts. Violators are fined $79.

OMG that is ridiculous. It looks like these municipalities are trying to make money the easiest way possible.

137 posted on 02/18/2006 8:24:13 PM PST by lawgirl (Cake is a powerful food!)
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Man's enduring nature will overcome the mysticism he has harbored for 2,500 years.

mysticism: believing in non-reality as though it were real -- believing in illusions as though they were real. Acting on non-reality believing it is real -- acting on illusions believing they are real.

Politicians, bureaucrats and parasitical elites are dependent on people's mysticism. For it is by manipulating people via their harbored mysticism that they enrich themselves while draining the host -- parasitical elites leeching off value producers.

For each law there are politicians and bureaucrats and often special interest lobbyists asserting that various harms will come to people without the proposed new law. The law intends to head of or halt the inevitable harm to people. That's how the large majority of laws and regulations come to pass. It's the great harm and suffering that the new laws and regulations are meant to squash. 

That's the underlying premise.

Surely, without the this year's new laws and regulations persons would run themselves and society headlong toward destruction. That's what politicians and bureaucrats premised their creating of this years new laws. Just as they did last year, decades before, centuries pat for over two millennia. Be it political rule or religious rule, the premise has always been to save man and society from man himself.

But what has really changed over the past two thousand years? Has the nature of man changed?

It certainly seems appropriate to state that politicians and bureaucrats believe that man's nature is to self-destruct. However wrong they are -- very wrong -- with almost every person breaking the law several times each year -- most people unaware when they are breaking the law -- people and society have not self-destructed.

How can it be that just a hundred years ago man and his society were able to so greatly increase the health and prosperity of people and society without the new laws to come in 1907 and new laws in 1908 and the years and decades that followed with evermore new laws and regulations? Why did the people of those past times not self-destruct themselves and take society down with them? How is it that people of our current day do not run themselves and society headlong to destruction without the benefit of the new laws and regulations to come in 2007, 2008 and for the next twenty-five, fifty and one-hundred years? 

Man is not by nature self-destructive. Man's nature has not changed for over 3,000 years -- not since the discovery/invention of consciousness. For 2,500 years man has increasingly prospered. Slowly at first, but increasingly. With rapid increase over the past one-hundred-fifty years.

What has consistently changed at all times except for the Dark Ages is technology. It is because of the men and women who discover, invent and create new technologies that persons and society have increasingly prospered. And it is precisely that which politicians and bureaucrats aim to hinder and sometimes destroy. While proclaiming to protect people from certain harm due to man's supposedly self-defeating nature -- a false premise -- in reality is man's nature to create a better life for himself, his family and humanity that politicians and bureaucrats attack. The false premise is just an illusion -- not real. For in reality man's nature is to creatively and productively benefit himself and herself and others.

It is the essence of man that the politicians and bureaucrats attack and cause countless harm and suffering. For example, taxes in the United States: Tax Freedom Day is right around May 15. That's the date when a person is no longer working to pay taxes. In other words, a person works January 1, to May 15, just to pay his annual tax bill.  That's four-and-a-half-months of time effort and energy mostly wasted on paying politicians and bureaucrats to create more new laws and regulations that attack man's greatness -- attack the essence/nature of man. So not only does a person waste almost half a year of time, effort and energy, the product of that waste is turned against him via new destructive laws and regulations. 

A War of Two Worlds:

Value Producers
versus 
Value Destroyers

"It is a war of rational honesties versus irrational dishonesties."

148 posted on 02/18/2006 8:42:40 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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In Knoxville, TN the badge carrying Barney can cite you for leaving keys in a vehicle DOORS LOCKED and engine running. For example if you have a pet in the car and go inside the store to buy a loaf of bread that breaks the city law. Hey Barney there's a bunch of tickets for you to write on the west end of the city at the truck stops.

The local dog catcher tried to get me for having a pet in my vehicle and endangering it. At no time except when some woman PETA busy body freak kept bothering the animal did it become the lest bit stressed. The PETA freak called animal control about an animal left in a vehicle on an overcast day widows partially open and low 70's temps with a strong prevailing wind. I was given a warning just because Barnette wanted to please the PETA Freakette whom she seemed to know real well. I found out later PETA Freakette watches the area I was parked in at the time. The engine was off and windows were opened providing more than sufficient air to the pet. Two windows were even open to where the pet could reach them even laying down as they were screened windows. This was in a conversion van very well insulated and built for traveling.

So I later asked the Barney in charge of the animal control unit if keeping the pet in a vehicle that was air conditioned would suffice their concerns. Barney in charge proceeded to quote me city ordinance number whatever forbidding engines running in vehicles unoccupied even with the doors locked. Barney said it prevented theft. I told Barney give me a screw driver and a hammer and I can pop any switch in seconds. Barney of course in a high pitched voiced said the law is the law mister.

I had checked the inside temperature of the vehicle several times and as well when I had returned to it and found Barnette with her PETA friend snitch pulling up. Barnette picked PETA freak updown the street and brought her there. I even kept a voice activated radio in the vehicle. Lady Barney who responded said it was too hot for the pet. I said the pet is fine and is not in danger. I tried to show Barnette the thermometer inside the vehicle which wI just eneterd that said it was around 80 degrees F indicating ample source of ventilation. Barnette didn't care about that though or the fact I was well within the boundries of written laws concerning the matter. Barney and Barnette told me their opinion of any situation was actually the law in such cases and not written laws.

So if you travel with a pet and drive through Knoxville, TN in the spring or fall don't stop and leave your pet in the car even with the motor and air running and doors locked. Barney & Barnette's friends who have watched way too many Animal Precinct shows will snitch on you to Animal Control Officer Barney or Barnette :>}

163 posted on 02/18/2006 9:58:56 PM PST by cva66snipe
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Now, that's the system, Mr. Rearden, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.

Dr. Ferris is still enthusiastically encouraged to jam it.

Our government needs an enema, top to bottom. Continuing to vote for the same two Big Stupid Government parties makes you the equivalent of a battered wife who just won't leave.

Screw Big Stupid Government, Republicans and 'Rats.

165 posted on 02/18/2006 10:01:21 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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I have said many times on FR, getting arrested is only a big deal the first time it happens. :-)


168 posted on 02/18/2006 11:54:30 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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In California, state law now says that we must take common household batteries (D, C, EE, etc.) to the nearest landfill. You cannot place them in your curbside trash. What is so ridiculous is that on trash day, a giant truck arrives occupied by just the driver, and a mechanical arm throws each trash container up and empties the contents into the truck, which then compacts it. So, the reality in California is that we can just keep throwing away our batteries in the household trash, and refuse to drive 15 miles to the landfill to drop off a flashlight battery! A stupid law that is unenforceable.
188 posted on 02/19/2006 2:35:52 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws."

Have we reached that point?

Yes. We have.

The author completely ignores the plethora of nanny-state federal regulations we are violating every day. Ever read the fine print on the labels of cleaning products?

It is a violation of federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

Wanna bet you haven't broken that one recently?

Other examples are plentiful.

197 posted on 02/24/2006 10:48:11 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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