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Bush Doesn't Get It on Immigration
Human Events ^ | Febuary.1, 2006 | Congressman Tom Tancredo

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:50 AM PST by Reagan Man

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To: Dane

The current "guest worker" plan calls for the illegal immigrants to come in and register for a three year pass. At the end of that 3 years, they register for a 3 year extension.

So, let's say 80% of the illegals do that, and it's six years later. Is the government going to kick any 8 or 10 million "guest workers" out? Not a chance. If the feds were going to do that, they would've done it by now.

So, the "guest worker" program is, IN EFFECT, an amnesty program. Those programs never work.

Plus, once the program is certain of being passed by Congress, the current flood of illegals will become a tsunami of illegals trying to get in here to be grandfathered into the program.


361 posted on 02/02/2006 4:44:22 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Dane
Please, I ain't the one who passes on the urban myth of Karl Rove saying to tancredo" don't darken the White House ever again", while tancredo gladly goes and hobnobs at White House Christmas parties.

Huh? that came from the mouth of Rep. Tancredo himself, he said it on the air when he was being interviewed by John & Ken

362 posted on 02/02/2006 4:48:14 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: Stultis
Pro-growth conservatives (at least this one) might not trust isolationists/unionists/protectionists to not pull the reverse bait-and-switch: secure the borders but then refuse to do anything about providing for our labor needs.

You have nothing to worry about there. Absent in all the border security debate is the fact that the State Dept issues hundreds of thousands of tourist visas to Mexicans every year, knowing full well that they will be misused by the recipient who ends up living and working in the US. Many illegals have this document, and there's no talk of the government restricting access to it in the future - quite to the contrary.

363 posted on 02/02/2006 5:26:34 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: jerry639
Just this past week at least 2 were arrested for making and selling Meth. Won't be long until they will take over the illegal drug business and local law enforcement will be afraid to go up against the gangs. When that happens, and it will, the citizen are going to be in a lot of trouble.

US morphs into Mexico bump

364 posted on 02/02/2006 5:43:04 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
If the Senate's goal is to ultimately pass amnesty then they can push it back all they want, I agree the status quo is far preferable to that.

for every year's delay, we get:

11 million illegal alien man years

divided by 75 years +/- life expectancy

that's 150,000 illegal aliens who in their lifetime in the US were not legally able to suck at the govt's teat

You're right, the status quo has its benefits

365 posted on 02/02/2006 5:51:04 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: moehoward
Yep. They will. And because of withholdings included in those paychecks, they wont be as cheap as the their now Illegal variant.

Businesses will prefer the illegals who didn't qualify for or preferred not to sign up for the guest worker program - they will be displacing the newly-legalized guest workers, who will then have to resort to crime or govt benefits to get by.

366 posted on 02/02/2006 6:07:40 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: A.Hun
None of them have turned us into a third world nation yet.

How many of the previous feeder countries had 60 million poor people and was a 24-hour bus ride from our border? We're not talking about a few million Irish here. We're talking about a country that has no economic plan other than to send their refuse to us.

367 posted on 02/02/2006 6:11:03 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: A.Hun
If they are illegals, they also lose every bit of FICA.

they're on the same footing as future generations of US citizens, as far as that goes.

368 posted on 02/02/2006 6:20:05 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: A.Hun
As long as Mexicans can make ten times the money in the US as they can at home, we will have this problem. Fix that problem, and you will cure the illegal immigration problem.

In how many centuries do you think Mexico will have achieved salary parity with the United States? Then you'll have fixed the problem with respect to Mexico only. The 3rd world is a huge place and the answer is not to rehabilitate their countries by accepting the dregs of each of their societies. Yours is just an utterly absurd fix to the problem.

369 posted on 02/02/2006 6:24:08 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: A.Hun
If economic conditions ever do improve in Mexico, the wall would be instantly a waste of time.

is your reckoning of time in light years, or what?

370 posted on 02/02/2006 6:32:33 PM PST by Pa' fuera (I support family reunification.......through deportation)
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To: Pa' fuera

Amnesty will also trigger massive family chain visas. No wonder Ted Kennedy worked to get that into immigration law, nothing like importing huge numbers of instant democrats.


371 posted on 02/02/2006 6:50:46 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reagan Man
Dey took our jibs!!!

They took our jobs!!!

372 posted on 02/02/2006 7:07:10 PM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: Reagan Man

Seems to me white liberals are the biggest problem in this nation; not legal Hispanic Roman Catholics.

All the problems in this nation can be traced right back to liberal white communist in the major cities where minorities can not be found.


373 posted on 02/02/2006 7:08:55 PM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: Dane

The Bush plan to legalize legalize millions of illegal aliens is an amnesty according to Rep. James Sensenbrenner. Here is a link to an article in the Washington Times in which Rep. Sensenbrenner called it an amnesty: http://washingtontimes.com/national/20060124-111959-4121r.htm. Here is a copy of a portion of that article:

Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., the House point man on immigration, yesterday said that a guest-worker program like the one proposed by President Bush is amnesty and that he cannot accept it in a final immigration bill.
"A guest-worker program that applies to illegal aliens already here is an amnesty," the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee said in an interview with The Washington Times.
As the chief House negotiator in any House-Senate conference committee on immigration, he said voters will not accept a plan that amounts to amnesty, and said Mr. Bush's proposal would simply push the problem down the road.
"It seems to me that if you give these people the temporary cards, and the president talked a little bit about that yesterday out in Kansas, whether they are three-year cards or six-year cards or any other term, how do you get them to go back home when they expire?" he said. "We end up simply postponing the decision on what to do about illegal aliens until the end of the validity of these cards."
He also said when Congress and the White House agreed in December 2004 to increase the U.S. Border Patrol by 2,000 agents a year, then two months later the president only funded 210 positions, it "was embarrassing both to the administration and those of us who fought for increased assets for border protection in the intelligence bill and then were let down."


374 posted on 02/03/2006 7:00:04 AM PST by arnoldpalmerfan (Tancredo for President 2008)
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To: Pa' fuera
is your reckoning of time in light years, or what?

Now thats funny! LOL

375 posted on 02/03/2006 3:41:52 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Reagan Man
I have the gnawing fear that the appearance of effective action on the border remains the POTUS's primary objective. Why? Because that's all we have had thus far.
376 posted on 05/15/2006 9:42:17 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Travis McGee

That fence looks turd-worldish.


377 posted on 05/15/2006 9:44:22 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: Dane
You were wrong back in 02/01/2006 and you're wrong now.

PWN3D!!!

378 posted on 05/15/2006 9:47:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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