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Bush Doesn't Get It on Immigration
Human Events ^ | Febuary.1, 2006 | Congressman Tom Tancredo

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:50 AM PST by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man
Wake up Dane. Talk is cheap. The Bush guest worker proposal is nothing but backdoor amnesty. You and your buds in the open border crowd have enjoyed the five years of inaction from this POTUS. Three more years of inaction and you'll be overjoyed

Why don't you wakeup and instead of constantly harping, actually roll your sleeves up and work with other conservatives such as Kyl/Cornyn on a solution.

21 posted on 02/01/2006 7:49:54 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: colorcountry

A guest worker program that allows illegals to stay is supporting illegal immigration.


22 posted on 02/01/2006 7:49:58 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: Reagan Man; devane617; pissant; Dane
I like Tancredo. Here I disagree with the import of the issue.

But of course it is amnesty or whatever you want to call it. Bush even did the liberal thing where he used the term immigrants in stead of illegal immigrants.

Thos who support Bush on this ought to be realistic and admit it is of course amnesty and fairly open borders.

Those against Bush, like Tancredo and some here on this, have to realize its a done deal.

Who knows what's going to happen. It's up to us as Americans to impact on the new arrivals -- ie the illegals who live here (and others).

It's an opportunity. Mexican culture has a lot more reverence for life than Hillary's modern post-Protestant culture. It's when they come to the US that they are turned in to dark siders.

But, it ain't going to stop. Bush has endorsed it openly big time. Get real accept it.

Those who don't criicize bush stop playing word games like its not amnesty etc...

No one told my ancestors they couldn't come here nor did they have to fill out a form or get a visa.

But I know they pledged allegiance to the colonies not the crown -- that made them American, not some paperwork.

23 posted on 02/01/2006 7:49:59 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Reagan Man

"To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection.
(APPLAUSE)
BUSH: And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty, allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally, and reduces smuggling and crime at the border."

He has been saying this for the last 4 years yet our borders are getting worse not better.


24 posted on 02/01/2006 7:51:25 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Dane

They are not on the conservative side of this issue.


25 posted on 02/01/2006 7:51:27 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: Dane; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite
"tancredo, IMO, does not want a solution. That would hamper funds coming into his and bay buchanan's PAC."

what color is the sky acid in your world?
26 posted on 02/01/2006 7:51:45 AM PST by flashbunny (Are you annoying ME? Are you annoying ME? You must be annoying me, since there's no one else here!)
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To: conservativecorner
Ditto on Congressman Tancredo's thoughts regarding illegal immigration and President Bush's inaction!

More like tancredo's inaction. There is a good bill in the Senate(Kyl/Cornyn) and instead of tancredo working with them, he grandstand's for his and his partner bay buchanan's PAC.

27 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:12 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: devane617
How do you solve this by voting Dim? What specifically did Clinton do to stop illegal immigration?

Did President Bush say we need to open our borders and let them all come in? I must have missed that part.

(I know your not a troll...I was being facetious...trying to get a rise out of you, so you'd respond)
28 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:13 AM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: Reagan Man; AZRepublican; flashbunny; Stellar Dendrite; kellynla; ARCADIA; DumpsterDiver; ...
In 1986, Congress passed a blanket amnesty on the promise that border security would come later. We all remember the ’86 bait-and-switch, and we won’t be fooled again. There is no way to determine if we need guest workers, and there is no way to gain control of this broken system until we seal our borders and control our country’s interior.
29 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:14 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Reagan Man

Control the borders, start building a wall.

Then lets talk about about everything else.

Stop the bleeding, stablize the patient, THEN decide what kind of surgery is neccessary.


30 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:25 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Reagan Man

In these Orwellian times, forgiving illegal immigrants their crime isn't Amnesty, as long as you don't actually use the word.


31 posted on 02/01/2006 7:52:57 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Dane; pissant

So why would a guest worker program not be an amnesty if it allows illegal aliens already in the country to use it to stay here ? Do you believe in rewarding lawbreakers ?

And speaking of a guest worker program - explain to me the difference between it and indentured workers ?

Why don't we just open wide our immigration policies and allow everyone who wants to, to come to this country legally, get a job anywhere and do anything they want to, collect welfare, use our (free) government schools, get treatment at taxpayer expense in our hospital emergency rooms, drive on our roads, and on and on and on ?

The borders need to be secured and the rape of the American taxpayer to support these illegals needs to stop - BEFORE we consider a guest worker plan.

As soon as we turn off the taxpayer handouts to immigrants and close the borders to illegal entry, I'm all in favor of considering whether we need more immigrants than our current policy allows.


32 posted on 02/01/2006 7:53:56 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: tallhappy

How naiive some seem to be about this issue! Bush is the biggest Hispanic panderer this side of the Mexican border, his program is tantamount to an open borders policy, how can we fight terrorism with these sort of irresponsible policies?


33 posted on 02/01/2006 7:54:31 AM PST by HonoraryCitizen1
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To: Dane

Deeds not words is what makes the difference.


34 posted on 02/01/2006 7:54:36 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: colorcountry

The differnece between the rats and the respendicans is getting mighty thin on many issues. Spending, immigration just to name two.


35 posted on 02/01/2006 7:56:01 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Proud Dad of Twins, What Does Not Kill You Makes You Stronger!!!!!!)
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To: Dane

Unfortunately, President Bush does not consider giving illegals guest worker visas an amnesty. The rest of us do.


36 posted on 02/01/2006 7:56:07 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: flashbunny
what color is the sky acid in your world?

I guess you could call that "acid" reality.


37 posted on 02/01/2006 7:56:36 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Stop blowing hot air Dane.

IN five years, Bush has not done anything about the open borders, the illegal immigrants that come streaming across it, the employers who hire those illegals or the welfare money they receive from the American taxpayer.

The vast majority of the American people agree with Cong Tancredo, Bay Buchanan and the 82 other members of the House Immigration Caucus. Members like Mike Pence, John Sensenbrenner and John Shadegg. Secure the borders, punish employers who hire illegals and halt welfare handouts to illegals. And NO guest worker program under the guise of backdoor amnesty.

You and your buds who support open borders and illegal immigration are in the minority on this issue.

38 posted on 02/01/2006 7:56:47 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man

In loved George Bush's State of the Union. I was cheering and clapping. I pretended I was there :)

Aside from that Tom Tancredo is right on here. George Bush needs a lot of pressure on border issues and same for Karl Rove. George Bush will discipline the Islamic terrorists but we need to revolt and discipline George Bush on this illegal immigrant invasion. He is worse than the Clinton years


39 posted on 02/01/2006 7:58:04 AM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: rcocean
A bad neighbor necessitates a good fence!


40 posted on 02/01/2006 7:59:00 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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