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Bush Doesn't Get It on Immigration
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| Febuary.1, 2006
| Congressman Tom Tancredo
Posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:50 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: NapkinUser
I call BS. California pays out 9 billion a year in benefits to illegals, education, incarceration, medical.
How much is our structural deficit?
To: tallhappy
Those against Bush, like Tancredo and some here on this, have to realize its a done deal. Not if most of us can help it.
To: Dane
Secure our borders! Then lets talk "guest worker."
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:04:38 AM PST
by
rock58seg
(It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
To: NapkinUser
It passed the house in December of 2005, but will most likely get killed in the senate when a guest worker amnesty is attached, thus forcing the more conservative house of representatives to vote in down when the bill comes back to vote on the senate changes. It's doubtful if it comes back with an amnesty/guest worker attached it'll even get past the conference committee. Then we're back to square one if they can't agree on the enforcement issues.
To: flashbunny
Truth hurts doesn't it...figured out a Final Solution yet?
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:08:17 AM PST
by
A.Hun
(Common sense is no longer common.)
To: tallhappy
Meirs was a "done deal" and we did not quit. We did not quit when the Dems tried to steal Florida. "We did not quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor." Realisticly, our borders need to be secured, I'd like that it be before the amnesty/guest worker program is enacted.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:11:26 AM PST
by
rock58seg
(It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
To: Dane
Either he drops his guest worker crap or he'll be looking at a House asnd Senate that is no longer Republican.
To: dalereed
Either he drops his guest worker crap or he'll be looking at a House asnd Senate that is no longer Republican. Blah, blah, blah, more empty threats and BTW, does the genius tancredo think that a Speaker nancy pelosi would let an immigration reform bill to see the light of day.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:17:13 AM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Reagan Man
In 1986, Congress passed a blanket amnesty on the promise that border security would come later. We all remember the 86 bait-and-switch, and we wont be fooled again. Then why won't Tancredo agree to do border security and guest workers and/or immigration quota increases together? Pro-growth conservatives (at least this one) might not trust isolationists/unionists/protectionists to not pull the reverse bait-and-switch: secure the borders but then refuse to do anything about providing for our labor needs.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:17:15 AM PST
by
Stultis
(I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
To: Dane
You seem to be proud of Kyl's plan. What's so good about it?
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:17:43 AM PST
by
rock58seg
(It's time for Islam to actually become a religion of peace or a religion of the past.)
To: Dane
"work with other conservatives such as Kyl/Cornyn on a solution"
They are just as liberal as you are, that's no solution it just makes the problem worse!
Crucify employers of illegals and elimiante the problem!
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...
To: dalereed
Either he drops his guest worker crap That's right. We don't need no stinkin' guest workers just because our economy is booming at the same time our demographic of working age adults is plummeting. I'm sure retired baby-boomers will be happy to leave their golf courses and go pick lettuce.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:21:13 AM PST
by
Stultis
(I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
To: joesnuffy
"The action on illegal aliens in the last 5 yrs says it all." This problem started in the 80's when it became policy that law enforcement in at least San Bernardino and Riverside counties could not call INS for illegals until they committed a crime other than being illegal.
Why try to blame in on one man and narrow it down to the Bush presidency.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:21:35 AM PST
by
1035rep
To: dalereed
They are just as liberal as you are, that's no solution it just makes the problem worse! Blah, blah, blah. Yuh know maybe you and tancredo should take a Dale Carnegie course and maybe you wouldn't repulse people who probably agree with you politically 80% of the time.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:21:56 AM PST
by
Dane
( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
To: Reagan Man
"Bush Doesn't Get It on Immigration"He doesn't get it on Trade Balance either.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:22:37 AM PST
by
ex-snook
(God of the Universe, God of Creation, God of Love, thank you for life.)
To: pissant
You have a point. But the past is past, and we can only go forward from here. I hope you're right about prongs #1 & 2, but prong #3 is a loser as far as I'm concerned. Why should we be Mexico's safety valve? Illegals are sending billions home to mamacita and the kids, money that should have been earned by Americans and stayed in this country. Not to mention the opportunity for terrorists and drug dealers to enter undetected.
The borders should have been slammed shut on 9/12- and that's all there is to it.
There's a great big effin' hole in America's security and it better get closed, pronto!
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:22:43 AM PST
by
95 Bravo
("Freedom is not free.")
To: Dane
I have generally agreed with you on alot of things as of late, but I do have this question for you. By "no amnesty" does he mean that guestworkers will not be allowed to stay after their temporary visa expires, or does he mean, as McCain and Kennedy seem to believe, that they should be allowed to gain citizenship while working in this country?
There is a very big difference. I am completely against any worker plan that has a path to citizenship. That is amnesty plain and simple.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:23:08 AM PST
by
SC33
To: rock58seg
Meirs was a "done deal" and we did not quit. Miers wasn't ever a done deal.
And, there's really no analogy.
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posted on
02/01/2006 9:23:48 AM PST
by
tallhappy
(Juntos Podemos!)
To: devane617
I agree with you on this, but not on your comment about voting dem because they will tell you one thing and do another and they want all those second generation hispanic votes...
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