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At Burial Site, Teeth Tell Tale of Slavery
NY Times ^ | January 31, 2006 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 01/31/2006 3:29:26 AM PST by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

Does anyone think it a bit odd that the map shows a slave route from a PORTUGESE town (Elmina) in Africa to a SPANISH colony? Portugal's slaves usually went to Portugal's colonies. And if they barely know the African slaves are West African, how do they know they came from Elmina?


21 posted on 01/31/2006 5:55:29 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: CivilWarguy

Y'know, that struck me a bit also, though I rationalized it by thinking that merchants sell their "goods" wherever there's a market. So, at that time, I imagine that the Portuguese were the main slavers.


22 posted on 01/31/2006 6:09:33 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: mewzilla; Pharmboy

OK, I see the connection now. I didn't realize that Strontium was used to monitor mobility.


23 posted on 01/31/2006 6:33:01 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Thermalseeker
It actually is common knowledge that the West African slave trade probably could not have existed on the scale it did without the North Africans (read: muslims) organizing the whole enterprise.

The taking of prisoners as slaves from enemy tribes and conquered peoples existed among the West Africans, and for that matter among ancient Europeans (Greeks and Romans) and Native Americans, from time immemorial. In the late 1600's English peasants who supported the failed insurrection of the Duke of Monmouth against King James II were condemned to slavery and shipped off to the Caribbean en masse to cut sugar cane on English plantations. But the industrial scale business of supplying tens of thousands of African slaves to Portuguese, Spanish, and British colonies in the New World was organized and overseen by Arabs.

This is not to discount the shameful participation of Christian Europeans, but ignoring or discounting the responsibility of muslims is like overlooking the role drug kingpins play in supplying crack in favor of condemning only the street corner vendors.

24 posted on 01/31/2006 6:55:33 AM PST by katana
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25 posted on 01/31/2006 8:28:14 AM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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To: Pharmboy

Very interesting find


26 posted on 01/31/2006 8:37:07 AM PST by Dustbunny (Can we build it - Yes we can - Bob the Builder - Can we win it - Yes we can - Geo. W. Bush)
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To: caver

"How do they know that they spent their early years in Africa? They could have already been here and filed their teeth here."

chemical signatures of their teeth


27 posted on 01/31/2006 8:42:39 AM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Pharmboy

Portugal and Spain were at this time bitter New World rivals. It is unlikely (though not impossible) that Portuguese slavers sold slaves to the Spanish, and very unlikely that any slaves in Mexico could be traced back to a Portuguese port. Plus, why no mention in the article of the extensive Aztec slaveholdings?


28 posted on 01/31/2006 9:08:20 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: CivilWarguy

Yeah...you make good points. My expertise is pretty much limited to the time between the French and Indian War through General Washington's death, so I can't do much more than speculate on this stuff, which is always dangerous.


29 posted on 01/31/2006 9:14:10 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Abathar

You are probably right--very interesting point you raise.


30 posted on 01/31/2006 9:14:59 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: CivilWarguy

Didn't the missionaries use indians for slaves at the missions until they realized indians weren't good under duress? And didn't they import other slaves instead?


31 posted on 01/31/2006 9:17:08 AM PST by i.l.e. (Tagline - this space for sale....)
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To: Pharmboy

Actually the interesting point I raised is that I had to think that way at all. You hear a story like this and the first thing that comes to mind is how can someone use it to stiff someone else out of money in todays courts.


32 posted on 01/31/2006 9:42:01 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: i.l.e.

i.l.e., every race has been enslaved at one point or another by every other race. To return to the example in the article, very few Black slaves were transported to Mexico, and Black slavery never really took hold there. Of the Spanish Caribbean colonies, Cuba and Santo Domingo (for practical reasons) were the usual destinations.


33 posted on 01/31/2006 10:50:04 AM PST by CivilWarguy
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"Filed teeth was a characteristic of West African born youth, not central American people."

Mainly. Not exclusively.

Study: Viking Teeth Were Groovy

34 posted on 01/31/2006 11:08:37 AM PST by blam
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; blam
Sheesh...the things I learn on FR:

This is the first known case of tooth filing in Europe, but it was common practice in the Americas between AD 800 and 1050. Since the skeletons date from around the same time, this raises the possibility that the Vikings picked up the practice during their travels. Arcini hopes future finds will reveal where the practice arose and how it spread.

This came from the The New Scientist article that blam pointed us to.

35 posted on 01/31/2006 12:34:34 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

Thanks.


36 posted on 01/31/2006 1:35:59 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: CivilWarguy
"Of the Spanish Caribbean colonies, Cuba and Santo Domingo (for practical reasons) were the usual destinations."

The Portuguse(sp) brought a lot of Blacks to Brazil as slaves.

There are more Blacks in Brazil today than any other country outside of Africa.

37 posted on 01/31/2006 3:00:00 PM PST by blam
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To: CivilWarguy

Remember that from 1580 until 1640, Portugal was ruled by the King of Spain and incorporated into the Spanish Empire due to the death of the Portuguese line and the inheritance of the throne by the Spanish monarch, closest in bloodline.

It's a bit like Northern Europe. The Dutch and British were bitter rivals, with the Dutch at one point surging into the mouth of the Thames and burning the port of London! But then Wilhelm IV of Holland became William III of England, and Holland and England were at peace under the reign of the House of Orange. Rivals in trade? Yes. But still fundamentally allied and incorporated into one another's overall defense systems and trading empire.


38 posted on 01/31/2006 4:16:21 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: CivilWarguy

Other than during the period of the "Spanish Captivity" of Portugal, from 1580 to 1640.


39 posted on 01/31/2006 4:17:43 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Et alors?)
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To: Pharmboy

Most interesting.


40 posted on 01/31/2006 4:38:36 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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