Posted on 01/23/2006 4:31:58 PM PST by PatrickHenry
O.K.
So will you accept basic scientific processes, or is it that observing and looking for explanations is always a Satanistic attempt to destroy God?
Feel free to ping me if someone from my "camp" insults one of you guys. I still say that most of us on here do believe in God. I myself have never had a problem reconciling my belief in God with my scientific beliefs. Just because I disagree on this doesn't mean we're all that different.
I like what you wrote here. Very well said and I absolutely agree with it. You are right too about creationists being maligned more, in the real world of course, evolutionists usually get it pretty good on FR. It may interest you to know that I actually agree with ID or even creationism being taught alongside evolution in school. There are no morals being taught in school today, just socialism, so a little Christian thought can only help in my opinion to turn out better human beings. I'm pretty sure this view is not widespread among evolutionists however. Oh well.
Alright, what you wrote is interesting, but I think you're really reading too much into this. I for one, and I think most of us on here who are evolutionists, are open minded and don't buy everything our teachers tell us. Just the fact that we're not Dimocrats shows we don't buy a bunch of BS. I really gotta wonder how you think I'm calling God a lier too??? I believe the Book of Genesis is correct, I believe some of the words may symbolise something else; either purposefully or because of translation. Remember, the Bible you now hold was not written in English, nor Greek, nor the other languages it was in first. It was written by different human beings in Hewbrew dialects. I believe God did inspire and tell it to who wrote it. I have a theory of God and many world religions and how things were written and why, but this is probably not the best place to tell it. What you need to know is that guys like me have come to our understanding of things from the same thoughtful processes that you have come to yours. We have not been taken in as it were by anybody.
"Actually, no you are not. Conservatism is anchored in rationality. Liberals reject reality in spite of the facts. ID'ers have MUCH more in common with liberals than conservatives - because they hold their conservative beliefs not due to a rational thought-out philosophy - but because of a fear of betraying their belief system.
ID'ers are just liberals with a different bent
Dude, I'm not an IDer."
I think you got me mixed up with somebody else. I agree with what you said above.
>You post. I decide?
>Evolution is for the morally challenged and mentally shallow.
And ittttt issssss!
LOL! Great photo!
Oh, good. You're back!
How did your "research" go?
Have you found any evidence to defend the lies you were repeating, or are you willing to admit that you were wrong about the facts?
Yeah!
And it's not like they've been caught in a pattern of lying about their true inten....
Never mind.
Didn't you see? He quoted an AiG article out of context, ignored the conclusion of the article, and claimed that the article from AiG was a "pro evolution story".
Yeah, but he said he was going to do "research".
Then he snuck back.
I'm only wondering if he actually intends to support the lies he has been repeating, or if his claims of research were just yet another "misstatement."
"Oh, good. You're back!"
I thought I was in a new thread, hence my posts to earlier posts. I then realized It was not a new thread, but the old one in which we've been sharing reasoned and intelligent ideas and opinions the last 24-hr on this critical and insidious theory known as evolution.
How are you? Did I miss anything since last?
Nope.
We're still waiting for you to either provide evidence to support the lies you have been spreading or admit that you were wrong.
Should be very simple, if they are indeed "historical facts." Strange that you have been unable to substantiate them....
Do you mean in the same sense as when one of the defendants in the Dover case claimed under oath that he didn't know where the money for the ID text books came from, when in fact he had collected the money from his fellow church members and gave the check to his father, who then purchased the books?
;-)
Or, as the judge characterized their testimony in the case:
"Finally, although Buckingham, Bonsell, and other defense witnesses denied the reports in the news media and contradicted the great weight of the evidence about what transpired at the June 2004 Board meetings, the record reflects that these witnesses either testified inconsistently, or lied outright under oath on several occasions, and are accordingly not credible on these points." P. 105[emphasis added]
Yep, that's *exactly* the "misstatement" that I was talking about.
Seems to be a pretty standard tactic for creationists.
Didn't have much time to research be honest with you.
Had to take my car to the mechanic for inspection this morning and failed the fuel emission tests. Got held at the service station for 2 1/2 hours. Came home, had lunch and the guy never called me. So I walked back to the station and gave me the bad news. Came back home at around 5pm, cooked, did some chores and had a nap. I love naps, btw.
Thank you for your welcome. But I must warn you tho, I'm not on your side; I'm on God's and truth's side, which is the same side anyway, since GOD is TRUTH!. Sorry to disappoint you.
Almost forgot. Today I received from Amazon two books which I had ordered a few days ago. Aquinas Shorter Summa and St. Augustine City of God (I think that's the title; I haven't got it front of me). Within those pages lie the proof to the existence of God. Started reading on I)Faith; 1.The Divine Trinity; a.God.
I'll search the opposing viewpoint if I have time while reading these books of God.
Hey, I'm content of my assertions.
If you do not believe them you can always Google them and find out on your own. It should not take much. I just can't continue to provide links confirming my assertions to satisfy your needs. Needs, I may add, that ultimately may not be satisfied because you're set in your ways. I'm damn*d if I do, and am damn*d if I don't - provide all your requests for links, that is.
"Darwin recanted on his deathbed"
I'll try it tomorrow, if I do not forget. Promise. Been busy lately.
Good night.
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