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Solving the Pueblo mystery
The Washington Times ^
| 1-23-06
| James G. Zumwalt
Posted on 01/23/2006 11:53:34 AM PST by JZelle
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To: TheBrotherhood
If the Pueblo was, indeed, on a mission to deliver slightly defective crypto equipment to the NKs then we should have waited until the ship was offloaded and THEN blown up the port facilities and the ship. If that was the mission only the crew chief would have known of it among those on the boat.
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posted on
01/24/2006 5:01:39 AM PST
by
ThanhPhero
(di hanh huong den La Vang)
To: Valin
After about 2 weeks we realized nothing was going to happen, morale went right in the toilet. We still don't know the real story here.
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posted on
01/24/2006 6:28:23 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
I was hoping to find out why we didn't firebomb N. Korea when they refused to let this ship go.The answer is that such an action by the US would have caused an international war between the US and China. The ship was not worth it.
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posted on
01/27/2006 6:39:48 PM PST
by
Rapscallion
(Ninety-nine percent of democrats give the rest a bad name.)
To: gaijin
I vaguely recall that they did get aboard, but found that the [crypto] equipment had already been removed.The crypto equipment went to Russia so the KGB could exploit the crypto key material they were getting from the spies W/O John Walker and W/O Gerald Whitworth...according to the History Channel.
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posted on
01/27/2006 6:48:14 PM PST
by
Rapscallion
(Ninety-nine percent of democrats give the rest a bad name.)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Actually, the plane wasn't a spy plane and the Red Chinese didn't force it down.Wrong on both counts. They were listening to preparations for a nuke test and they were forced down by a fighter that bumped their aircraft. The Navy pilot was heroic in avoiding a crash landing.
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posted on
01/27/2006 6:58:00 PM PST
by
Rapscallion
(Ninety-nine percent of democrats give the rest a bad name.)
To: Rapscallion
In order to permit Marcinko and his team a chance to get onto the Pueblo soon after its capture, I remember it being felt that there had to be a diversion. There was a avery large-scale air operation somewhere nearby.
It was something very prominent that would earn the full attention of the DPRKs, which it did.
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posted on
01/28/2006 11:17:50 AM PST
by
gaijin
To: JZelle
What really gets my goat is the North Koreans moved the USS Pueblo from their east coast to their west coast and up to Pyongyang and Clinton did not do a damned thing about it!
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posted on
01/28/2006 11:23:01 AM PST
by
Bender2
(Stop doodling around... Read the first three chapters of my Science Fiction novel.)
To: gaijin
Re:
I believe that Richard Marcinko (the former S.E.A.L. author of, "Red Cell", and many others) was dispatched right after the Pueblo's capture to attempt to destroy any cryptography equipment that remained onboard. I vaguely recall that they did get aboard, but found that the equipment had already been removed. The vessel was being kept tied-up dockside in a very obvious place, amazingly. I put very little faith in any thing Marcinko says about this...
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posted on
01/28/2006 11:26:19 AM PST
by
Bender2
(Stop doodling around... Read the first three chapters of my Science Fiction novel.)
To: JZelle
There may have been a different outcome if the CO were cleared and if he and the SSO got along.
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posted on
01/28/2006 11:32:24 AM PST
by
NY Attitude
(You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
To: Rapscallion
The answer is that such an action by the US would have caused an international war between the US and China. The ship was not worth it.
If I were President, I would have said they should have thought of that before they boarded it.
No war is "worth it". Every war would fail a cost-benefit analysis. That's why no one ever does one.
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posted on
01/28/2006 11:44:53 AM PST
by
UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
(Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
To: Bender2
" I put very little faith in any thing Marcinko says about this..."
Why do you say this? I read a couple of his books awhile back. They were some wild stories.
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posted on
01/30/2006 6:33:47 AM PST
by
JZelle
To: JZelle
The discovery of North Korea's secret, and short, participation in the Vietnam War nine months earlier may, therefore, be relevant. Ummm... no. The reason, AFAIK, for the North Korean attack on the Pueblo had to do with John Walker. Walker had been supplying keying material to the Soviets and they needed to get their hands on the actual crypto equipment. The North Koreans, through taking the Pueblo, were able to supply this to them.
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posted on
01/30/2006 6:40:51 AM PST
by
killjoy
(Same Shirt, Different Day)
To: JZelle; Bender2
Why do you say this? I read a couple of his books awhile back. They were some wild stories. Read Captain Robert A. Gormly's book, Combat Swimmer: Memoirs of a Navy SEAL. He had command of SEAL Team Six after Marcinko. His book goes into the details of the investigation. He makes it very obvious he has no love at all for Marcinko. Based off of what Captain Gormly wrote in his autobiography, I wouldn't trust anything Marcinko says.
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posted on
01/30/2006 6:46:51 AM PST
by
killjoy
(Same Shirt, Different Day)
To: killjoy; JZelle
Killjoy took the words right out of my mouth...
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posted on
01/30/2006 7:56:56 AM PST
by
Bender2
(Stop doodling around... Read the first three chapters of my Science Fiction novel.)
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