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Let's Give Iran Some Of Its Own Medicine (Mark Steyn)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-17-2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 01/16/2006 5:58:29 PM PST by blam

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To: blam

Can we possibly be preparing to live with a nuclear-armed Iran? I fear we are on the cusp of a new, grim time...


21 posted on 01/16/2006 6:26:17 PM PST by Timm
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To: zarf
And your evidence refuting is what, exactly, then? The facts are that we're beholden to Iran's bosom-buddy radical Shia in Iraq. Sadr murdered our boys in cold blood on Iran's orders, but now he's a major mover and shaker in the Iraqi government. Chalabi gave Iran classified information that helped to roll up our spy networks, but he's free to possibly become the next Oil Minister. All this helps us put pressure on Iran how? We're in a much worst position now than we were before
22 posted on 01/16/2006 6:26:46 PM PST by Lejes Rimul (Paleo and Proud)
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To: blam; devolve; potlatch; ntnychik; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER

23 posted on 01/16/2006 6:26:52 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
Make a huge mirror to counteract global warming. LOL!! Good one!
24 posted on 01/16/2006 6:27:17 PM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: blam

Yay, let's give all of our support to Sunni fundamentalist terrorist groups; they're fighting an evil empire, they must be on our side! That'll turn out great! </ sarcasm>


25 posted on 01/16/2006 6:27:55 PM PST by Lejes Rimul (Paleo and Proud)
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To: blam
"Needless to say, the German deputy foreign minister, Gernot Erler, has already cautioned that this may be going too far, and that sanctions could well hurt us more than it hurts the Iranians..."

It wouldn't be too soon to start Following The Money a la the Oil-for-Fraud scandal.
26 posted on 01/16/2006 6:28:55 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
If you believe that Straw was being honest I have a bridge to sell you.

If not honest, then an idiot.

27 posted on 01/16/2006 6:28:56 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: blam

If China does not go along, we should help Taiwan build some nuclear reactors.


28 posted on 01/16/2006 6:31:19 PM PST by Oh Brother
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To: blam

I'm getting a strong feeling lately that all the diplomatic efforts will somehow all fail. They will stretch out in time for what...say a year or two, who knows. When that failure comes (it won't be from lack of trying) there will be a unilateral action by either Israel, Iran, America\Britain\Aust. It's as simple and scary as that. Can anybody out there envision a more peaceful scenario that's somewhat realistic?


29 posted on 01/16/2006 6:31:39 PM PST by konahawk
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To: Gerfang
It would be a lot easier to put pressure on Iran if not for the current situation in Iraq.

I don't accept that. The Shia fought and died against Shia in the Iran-Iraq War. They were Iraqis first. And except for the leftist political whining, having a military base of operations in Iraq is a big plus.

30 posted on 01/16/2006 6:31:53 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: Gerfang

Posted this before, but what happens if we deploy a heavy corps, march up to the Iranian border, and tell their armed forces and people we are coming in to destroy the nukes and then out we go. We will not be stopped till we are done, and please don`t get in the way cause you will die.
Wonder what would happen?


31 posted on 01/16/2006 6:32:10 PM PST by bybybill (GOD help us if the Rats win)
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To: A.Hun

Iran has an area called Balochistan which would be perfect for that purpose.


32 posted on 01/16/2006 6:34:01 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: decal

You can't deter a suicidal religious fanatic who believes eternal paradise awaits him after you kill him.


33 posted on 01/16/2006 6:35:17 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Gerfang
Incorrect. The opposite is the case. We now have a lot of trrops and hardware in theater. Would not have that but for "the current situation in Iraq."

Iran has two fronts against us right now.

34 posted on 01/16/2006 6:35:53 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: voletti
All we need is our most feared secret weapon:

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35 posted on 01/16/2006 6:36:48 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper
There is no alternative. The way this is going to play out is to co-opt every disenfranchised group. It's also a reason why the Bush Iraq strategy was pure genius. Not just from a tactical level in terms of troop presence, but as a showcase of what the Shia can do in terms of a representative republic.

What 20-something Iranian wouldn't want a part of that in their own country vs. being drafted to fight for some loonies that are cutting them off from an exciting future?

36 posted on 01/16/2006 6:38:19 PM PST by lemura
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To: thoughtomator

Steyn does lay out a valid option, but if the libs in the Senate ever heard about it, it would offend their sense of fairness. Dumbasses.


37 posted on 01/16/2006 6:39:09 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: thoughtomator
"You can't deter a suicidal religious fanatic who believes eternal paradise awaits him after you kill him."

Well, that's the point MS made; most of the Iranians AREN'T that way now:

"The majority of Iran's population is younger than the revolution: whether or not they're as "pro-American" as is sometimes claimed, they have no memory of the Shah; all they've ever known is their ramshackle Islamic republic where the unemployment rate is currently 25 per cent..."
38 posted on 01/16/2006 6:40:56 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: voletti
President Ahmaggedonouttahere

For obvious reasons I refer to him simply as "President A" or "The Unpronoucable One."

And thanks Carter. 30ish years later the incompetence and malice of your disastrous administration is still haunting us.

39 posted on 01/16/2006 6:41:05 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: decal
The ones with their fingers on the launch button are that way and that's something we can't ignore. They need to be dealt with before they are in a position to nuke anything.
40 posted on 01/16/2006 6:43:59 PM PST by thoughtomator
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