LIVE THREAD: GORE TV ( speech on live - C-span 1; noon) be prepared to be afraid, very afraid.....)

one man's opinion....

[Mo1]

Townhall is on bed with them also??

[saveliberty]

tol is a great FReeper and I was teasing her about providing the DU link

[MNJohnnie]

Yes Radicals of any era are always in love with violance as an abstract. They all preach violence until they see their first freind die from a belly wound while screaming for their mother. The American Left is full of sound and fury but significes NOTHING. It would be the shortest revolution in history with most of the combat vets, most of the guns and all of the will power on OUR side. Hysteric Leftists are good at trash talk, pathetically inept at actually DOING anything.

[kristinn]

They seem not to know that the enemy of your friend is not your friend either.

[sono]

NOW HE TELLS US
[Kathryn Jean Lopez]

From that Gore speech today: A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government. Our Founding Fathers were adamant that they had established a government of laws and not men. Indeed, they recognized that the structure of government they had enshrined in our Constitution - our system of checks and balances - was designed with a central purpose of ensuring that it would govern through the rule of law. As John Adams said: "The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them, to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

[dead]

Yes, they want him to run again over on DU, based on today's speech.

Kurovski (1000+ posts) Mon Jan-16-06 01:19 PM
35. This is one for the history books. The most important speech in decades.

We are, apparently, witnesses to history. Al Gore droning on television history. We have not seen history in the making like this since the last time Al Gore droned on our televisions.

[kristinn]

Transpartisan is the political equivalent of transexual. You cut a few key parts off and voila, you're a transpartisan.

[Cboldt]

Information and action items on the Liberty Coalition website should not be taken as an endorsement by any partner organization unless explicitly stated as such.

I bothered to click through most of what I figured to be right-leaning groups. I didn't see calls for impeachment or the kind of bizzare rhetoric that moonbat Gore indulges in, but each of the links I hit was concerned at least, and some objected to some of President Bush's actions. As you note, each group should be heard for itself, but GOA is for example against the obtaining of gun ownership information without a warrant. And membership or association with Liberty Coalition is something that any group has control over.

[Cboldt]

Townhall is on bed with them also??

Yup. Put your ostracizer on!!!

[Soul Seeker]

You mentioned totality of votes. That is why I brought up that they do not own the majority opinion of the country and haven't since Carter's first election. How does this translate to electoral politics? It makes it difficult for them to line up enough states to win the electoral collage. The two are connected. An election can be won without the popular vote, not by much still doable, but it's a much harder road. Especially when the majority of states lean conservative in sympathy.

There are good reasons Democrats are skittish about Hillary's chances to take a "red" state. Because the makeup of popular opinion leans majority conservative, it makes electoral politics a bit easier road for Republicans. The majority of states reflect this majority opinion.

Again, Dems road to W.H. is one of two-

1) Perceived moderate/conservative Southern Governor (Carter, Clinton--Warner?)

2) Disenchanted conservative base of the Republican Party sitting out or voting third party if the candiate isn't liked. In this scenario Hillary, Gore or kerry could win. Any Liberal could conceivably win.

[conservative physics]

quote from his speech "In the words of James Madison, "the accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.""

I guess AL hasn't been paying much attention to what the judicial branch of the government has been doing lately... because according to Madison we are living under judicial tyranny since they have assumed all 3 functions of government for quite awhile, even going so far as dictating to legislatures what laws they have to pass.

[Mo1]

I'm very disappointed in hearing they are in bed with the liberal loons

[kristinn]

Apparently so.

[MNJohnnie]

Always amazing that the ones who scream loudest about "checks and balances" what to reduce the President's authority to that of a Congressional Clerk. Bush is doing EXACTLY what needs to be done. He is executing HIS authority as a CO EQUAL branch of Govt. Congress objects, some one brings a law suit and the Judiciary makes a ruling. That is HOW the system works.

Just absolutely disgusting how willingly the Hysteric Left, and their pseudo Conservative fellow travelers, are to go out and lie repeatedly to the American people.

[Howlin]

Why would they align themselves with a group whose beliefs they don't agree with?

[MNJohnnie]

Townhall is on bed with them also?? Yup. Put your ostracizer on!!!

Source for this? Townhall is not listed as one of the members in the posts on this thread of "Conservative" groups involved.

[confederacy of dunces]

I think it's perfectly fine to make a captured terrorist wear pink bunny pajamas. And to listen to Barney songs all day long.

The pajama's are okay, but Barney songs?!?!?. I dunno, that may be beyond the pale.

[kristinn]

These groups have tarred themselves with Gore's slime. It'll be interesting to see how they respond to complaints from their members.

[p23185]

Fifth, any telecommunications company that has provided the government with access to private information concerning the communications of Americans without a proper warrant should immediately cease and desist their complicity in this apparently illegal invasion of the privacy of American citizens. What company(ies) are providing private information about American citizens without warrants? Any such companies would face untold liabilities.

For someone who claims to have invented the Internet this guy is a moron. The NSA is not getting "taps from the telcos", they are using a "Metadata mining" operation by examining the header information on millions of digital data streams containing phone calls, e-mails, pictures, video, etc. This is being done by a massive array of supercomputers and no sentient being is doing the sifting until something pops up. No laws have been broken and no one has been "illegally wiretapped". The NSA is not a law enforcement agency and reports to Rumsfeld as part of the United State Military. All these nutcases whining about being tapped are nuts.

[Mo1]

They seem to be listed with this group

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558972/posts?page=654#654


IMO .. they have some Big Time explaining to do