[wolfcreek]

It's just like posting on FR, you better have legit sources.

[angkor]

I've been waiting for this shoe to drop.

Murtha does not seem like a genuine Marine.

[Bommer]

Murtha has thus far refused to release his own military records.

Hmmm. Medals for being wounded and a democrat refuses to release his records.....damn! I'm sorry but that just sounds so familiar

[bnelson44]

Trying to find fault in someone's war service is not honorable.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"I like guys who've never been there, who criticize us who've been there," Murtha said. "I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and sent people to war and then don't like to hear suggestions that what may need to be done."


murtha : Pay attention

You have been hanging around to long with cut and run hanoi kerry

The Brothers and Sisters on The Wall know what you have done.

And before you complain about me, I was there also.

DISMISSED!

[Casloy]

my knee was banged up and my arm was banged up when a helicopter was shot down

In Vietnam, it was considered wrong to ask for, or be awarded, a purple heart for injuries that didn't draw blood or require hospitalization. I got hit on the head by a falling tree during a mission and was medevaced and hospitalized. It never occured to me a purple heart was warranted and no one ever suggested I was even entitled to one. These sleazebags who try to pad their Vietnam service to promote their own careers are as despicable.

[HHKrepublican_2]

Murtha is a retired marine and was the first Vietnam combat veteran elected to Congress. Since 1967, there have been at least three different accounts of the injuries that purportedly earned Murtha his Purple Hearts. Those accounts also appear to conflict with the limited military records that are available, and Murtha has thus far refused to release his own military records. Instert: Kerry for Murtha, Senate for Congress and youve got a presidential candidate!

[tumblindice]

http://www.toontracker.com/lyrics/commander%20mcbragg%20lyrics.htm

One night--the Commander shot a Bengal tiger in his pajamas!
I know because he told me so, but how the tigger got in . . .

[CharlesWayneCT]

I don't care what he did or didn't do. He DID volunteer to fight for the military, he DID go to Vietnam, he WAS in harm's way.

We shouldn't question that service, nor should that service have any bearing on whether his ideas today make ANY sense, which they don't.

This is different than Kerry running for President citing his war record as a reason he is fit for commander-in-chief.

Whether Murtha served in Vietnam or not would have no bearing on whether he knows what he is talking about today.

[TX Bluebonnet]

I think asking for a medal is kind of lame. Don't they just award them to deserving people. IMO real heros don't ask for medals OR flaunt them.

[R. Scott]

I don’t have a lot of faith in official records for Purple Hearts, unless the original inpatient files can be located. Even the regular medical records might not be much help. Ours were maintained in the company at Vung Tau. We were operating out of Da Nang, I was wounded at Hue and operated on at Phu Bai.
Mine was the result of holes in my face, left arm and right leg from a 60 mm mortar. I carried my evac tag as a souvenir for years, but as it was written in pencil it didn’t last long. Around my 2nd reenlistment my 201 had it listed as wounds to arm and leg. By my retirement it was down to “wound in leg”.

[jveritas]

Please pull up this thread from breaking news and future threads related to this issue should be put in a garbage can somewhere. We do want FR to go hysteric about a very dumb move and attack the old man service regardless if it has issues with it. Murtha is causing immense damage to the democrats with his "cut and run" statements about Iraq and it is absolutely moronic to go after his service in Vietnam.

[smith288]

He doesnt like the war so lets attack his purple heart. Im not a fan of it and im no fan of that guy one bit.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Leave Murtha's military record alone. There's no justification for blowing the whole wad over something that happend decades ago. Murtha served his country in the military admirably. Focus on Murtha's work in Congress, starting with his voting record, and conflicting recent press and media statements.

[conservativewasp]

"'He's a phony and a liar' "

He's a damn traitor too!

[stylin19a]

Forget all this.
Just keep referrring to Murtha as an Ex-marine. (Caital E small m)

It's worse than casting aspersions on the legitimacy of his parents marriage.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Murtha should sign the SF180 and release his OQR. A sharp investigator; calling B.G. Burkett, could probably locate his service number and with that you wouldn't need his approval to get everything, except his medical records, with a FOIA request.

If he's telling the truth he ends up being bolstered, if he's lying then he gets exposed for being a fraud as does the medal inflator.

[Old Professer]

Sounds like he was elected in a political vacuum and became popular enough to remain in office, his reputation growing with each campaign and the telling of his story.

[Paradox]

Lets NOT go there, because the fact is, there are probably thousands of honorable, good men who's PH or other medal could be called into question. I don't here Murtha talking about his heroism, he hasn't written a book about it, they aren't producing a little movie about it, ala JF'n Kerry. Kerry and his camp were BEGGIN to be debunked.

Leave Murtha's past alone, unless it was criminal or something. We dont need to go there to refute what he has to say TODAY.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Here we go again,

... same old shiite again,

... marchin' down the avenue,

... one more fake 'n then we're thru..........

Sound off!

One-two!