President Bush, Tom DeLay Have Chilly Relations

NewsMax ^ | January 9, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

[Siena Dreaming]

Time quotes a an unnamed Republican allegedly close to the President's inner circle

Oh, yeah...gotta listen to this stellar source! /sarcasm

Newsmax...why are you infatuated with "Time" magazine?

[California Patriot]

Actually, I do believe the article, mainly because it just rings true.

If someone can convince me that Bush likes and respects DeLay, I'm all ears. But I'm not holding my breath.

[Kaslin]

Can anyone consider Time a credible source?

I don't

[Kaslin]

Neither do I. Hence my first post in #1

[MNJohnnie]

You do realize that Tom Delay got everything you 100%ers scream at Bush for thur the House? Amazing how the Whine all the Time Choir is always VERY careful to make sure NONE of their constant complaining is actually directed at the Congress who PASSED ALL THE BILLS they constantly blame Bush for. Sorry but your contention is screamingly absurd. To blame Bush and NOT Delay is nonsense. Delay bears even MORE of the blame since virtually every budget that goes up to the Congress comes out at LEAST 1/3 higher that what Bush asks for. Amazing how gutless the 100%ers are about holding CONGRESS accountable.

[MNJohnnie]

Amazing how all the Anti-Goverment types all all excited about the Abramoff scandal seem so desperate to give Delay a free ride for his ties to Abramoff. At the same time they are VERY careful to make sure the Bush Justice Department gets NO credit for breaking this open by going after Abramoff. Why is that?

[MNJohnnie]

You do realize that Tom Delay got everything you 100%ers scream at Bush for thur the House? Amazing how the Whine all the Time Choir is always VERY careful to make sure NONE of their constant complaining is actually directed at the Congress who PASSED ALL THE BILLS they constantly blame Bush for. Sorry but your contention is screamingly absurd. To blame Bush and NOT Delay is nonsense. Delay bears even MORE of the blame since virtually every budget that goes up to the Congress comes out at LEAST 1/3 higher that what Bush asks for. Amazing how gutless the 100%ers are about holding CONGRESS accountable.

[MNJohnnie]

You do realize that Tom Delay got everything you 100%ers scream at Bush for thur the House? Amazing how the Whine all the Time Choir is always VERY careful to make sure NONE of their constant complaining is actually directed at the Congress who PASSED ALL THE BILLS they constantly blame Bush for. Sorry but your contention is screamingly absurd. To blame Bush and NOT Delay is nonsense. Delay bears even MORE of the blame since virtually every budget that goes up to the Congress comes out at LEAST 1/3 higher that what Bush asks for. Amazing how gutless the 100%ers are about holding CONGRESS accountable.

[Sabramerican]

Between the two, I'm with Delay.

[manwiththehands]

Nope. You're wrong. I'm glad to see DeLay go. Maybe he can rediscover his conservatism on a budget committee in a back room somewhere.

Bush has never had much "conservatism" to lose.

[Zack Nguyen]

I have no doubt that the broad assertion of this article - that DeLay and Bush do not care for each other - is true. They are both driven men, real alpha males. Neither got where he is through knuckling under to others.

Furthermore, the uncomfortable truth is that DeLay is much more of an ideological conservative than Bush, and Bush (like most center/right moderate politicians) is probably a little baffled by the idelogically-driven passion on issues that DeLay and his constituency bring to politics.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

Why would anyone believe what the "Times" would have to say....they can say almost anything and not be challenged. That is much like some of the young mouthy hotheads do here on FR....why fool with such trash...such is the approach of the White House. That being said I would surmise that the President and Bush probably would not be big buddies...two very different folks with very different approaches.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

President and DeLay.....sorry about that

[alnick]

You don't buy into the Time unnamed sources gossip, do you? There's not one word in that article which can be substantiated.

[Galveston Grl]

**According to this week’s Time magazine, while on the surface they have been cordial to each other, there has been a "longtime chill” between the two men.**

I am sure Bush's mammoth eldery drug program warmed Delay's heart. ; )

And you are right. We have unnamed sources on this from the NYT. Do you think maybe the Times might be trying to sow desention in the party by blame-shifting to Bush for Delay's stepping down from the speaker's job? Nah, they would never do that being the fine upstanding journalistic institution they are.

[Miss Marple]

1. The President said that he believed DeLay was innocent in an interview with Brit Hume.

2. The President has had DeLay with him at numerous appearances, both during the campaign and after.

3. Newsmax likes stirring up trouble among conservatives. They often exagerrate or misquote stories in order to get everyone all up in arms. I usually ignore their stories. This one caught my eye because I figured there would be a lot of people who took the bait, and you are one of them.

[mystery-ak]

Time quotes a an unnamed Republican allegedly close to the President's inner circle as saying of the man Time sneeringly calls "the former exterminator” that "They have always seen him as beneath them, more blue collar. He's seen as a useful servant, not someone you would want to vacation with," the source sniffed

I don't believe this for a second...

[Miss Marple]

Isn' that a load of codswallop? The President has the utmost respect for the working man, for people who start their own businesses, and for people like Mr. and Mrs. DeLay, who live their faith and have taken in numerous foster children.

Time is operating on the CBS template...just making things up.

[OldFriend]

The members of the Donner Party don't seem to realize that compromise (spelled pork spending) is the only way the President is going to get the votes he needs for tax cuts, capital gains cuts, Patriot Act, education reform which has led to an across the board increase in scores for minority students, etc.

[OldFriend]

The very thought that our president would look down on DeLay because he owned an exterminating business is beyond belief.

This president would not be denigrating anyone for any reason.

Many here have complained tht the president doesn't attack his enemies.