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Thoughtful Hunters (Neanderthals)
Leiden University ^ | 1-2-2006

Posted on 01/02/2006 11:59:40 AM PST by blam

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1 posted on 01/02/2006 11:59:42 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/02/2006 12:00:18 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
" . . . in contrast to previous opinions . . ."

Of course!

3 posted on 01/02/2006 12:03:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: blam

What happens when there is only enough work for 5,000 PhDs and you have 25,000 PhDs...


4 posted on 01/02/2006 12:03:57 PM PST by pabianice
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To: blam
Good information. Thanks ===> Placemarker <===
5 posted on 01/02/2006 12:06:07 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: blam
Unlike most animals, which either sit and wait to ambush prey or use stealth and pursuit techniques, human hunters use a wealth of information to make context-specific decisions, both during the search phase of hunting and after prey is encountered. Specifically, information on ecology, seasonality, current weather, expected animal behaviour and fresh animal signs are all integrated to form multivariate mental modules of encounter probabilities that guide the search and are continually updated as conditions change.”

Either this means that, as a hunter, I'm a very evolved individual, or I'm a Neanderthal; I'm not sure which.

6 posted on 01/02/2006 12:11:10 PM PST by Redcloak ("If you can't say something nice about someone, then you must be talking about Hillary Clinton.")
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To: blam

Do you think they really know all this stuff?


7 posted on 01/02/2006 12:16:46 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: blam

How did liberals and vegetarians survive?


8 posted on 01/02/2006 12:21:38 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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Neanderthal hunting methods involved hand to hoof combat, and injuries were common. They would wrestle the beast to the ground and beat it with clubs and rocks after running it down or ambushing it. They would summon the women to drag the carcass home and cook it, and then sit around and evaluate their performance such as why so and so was gored, bitten or trampled and how to avoid that next time. The women would also sit around while the beast was cooking and evaluate the performance of the hunters, not necessarily hunting related. There was much joking, some of it not so good-natured, which was the origin of the dramatic form that eventually became formalized as the comedy.


9 posted on 01/02/2006 12:23:10 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Redcloak

(Either this means that, as a hunter, I'm a very evolved individual, or I'm a Neanderthal; I'm not sure which)

I think he is trying to say they were very good at killing things. I guess that makes all of us in the Red States Neanderthals. I can live with that!


10 posted on 01/02/2006 12:55:08 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: blam
Ye gods, the prose! The prose! Would it not be a good thing to ritually slaughter one or two of the worst-writing academics each year?
11 posted on 01/02/2006 1:13:46 PM PST by Grut
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To: Grut

(Ye gods, the prose! The prose! Would it not be a good thing to ritually slaughter one or two of the worst-writing academics each year?)

ONLY one or two! How about 5%!


12 posted on 01/02/2006 1:25:10 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: blam
For those, like me, who haven't noticed 'hominin' before:

Hominin definition

or BP:

BP definition

13 posted on 01/02/2006 1:30:48 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Redcloak

All the deer hunters I know just "sit and wait to ambush prey". The only education needed is for earning enough to pay for the rifles (muzzle loading and centerfire), the compound bow, all-weather heated deer stand and 4-wheeler to ride to the stand and haul out the carcass.


14 posted on 01/02/2006 1:40:56 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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On the BP definition--if archaeologists were thinking ahead they would have defined "present" as 2000, rather than 1950.

The math to convert to and from AD/BC would have been a whole lot easier!

[Archaeologists will date any old thing!]

15 posted on 01/02/2006 1:44:55 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: blam
So, in a nutshell, 'primitive' folks just weren't as primitive as they thought...D'oh!

Heck, I'd even go so far as to speculate that as time progressed, Neanderthals developed intellectuals who spent so much time 'talking' about hunting and so little time doing it that they starved...

16 posted on 01/02/2006 1:54:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: 19th LA Inf

You have to know where to put the stand or none of the rest counts.


17 posted on 01/02/2006 1:56:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: blam

20 years ago it was thought that the Neanderthal was incapable of vocalization, due to the shape of its bones in the neck and throat area.

I understand that this thinking has changed somewhat.

Do you know where we stand on the question of Neanderthal speech?


18 posted on 01/02/2006 2:27:29 PM PST by edwin hubble
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"Do you know where we stand on the question of Neanderthal speech?"

Neanderthals Gift Of Speech

19 posted on 01/02/2006 2:57:09 PM PST by blam
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20 posted on 01/02/2006 8:30:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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