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No happy ending in '05 for Hollywood, as ticket sales drop again
Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 24, 2005 | Daniel B. Wood

Posted on 12/24/2005 4:09:09 PM PST by Daralundy

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To: Daralundy

Earth to Hollywood. Make a movie positive about the U.S. military in Iraq or Afghanistan and people will flock to it.


141 posted on 12/24/2005 7:33:31 PM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: marajade
Seems as though you like all the Hollywood crap. Too bad more people do not agree with you, because if they did, Hollywood would be rolling in the dough.
142 posted on 12/24/2005 7:33:41 PM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: McGavin999

"Perhaps it's because they're all democrats ;o)"

That explains why they have no new ideas.

Can't wait to see the new Vietnam movie that will come out in the summer of 06. Just in time to put a new anti American spin on things, whip the far left into a frenzy, bring in about 100 mil to the party so they can lose more Senate and House seats then wonder what went wrong.


143 posted on 12/24/2005 7:36:22 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: Right Wing Assault
(Dammit! I want blue, not red for us. Who was the weasels who decided it would not be good to give the dems RED?)

They did.

What? Did you expect the leftist MSM to remind people from whence they came?

144 posted on 12/24/2005 7:37:34 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Babu

LOTR/ Lord of the Rings


145 posted on 12/24/2005 8:24:28 PM PST by elli1
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To: Melas
Becket and Lion in Winter

You should see the SCTV sendup, "King of the Popes". Catherine O'Hara does a slammin Katherine Hepburn.

There is only so much Peter O'Toole roaring I can take.

146 posted on 12/24/2005 8:52:02 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound; marajade

Senator, there was a little thing called the Sexual Revolution.

Before Spielberg in ET, nobody know how to write children in a way that wasn't Disney sickening saccharine. Disney movies during the 70's were hack junk with predictable plots, lousy slapstick heavy scripts, and fourth rate actors. Disney was where careers went to die. Nobody during the 70's who was the least bit cool would touch anything Disney with a ten foot pole.

Spielberg showed Disney how to write children for a new age. For a new audience. Then in the 80's it could start to recover.


147 posted on 12/24/2005 8:59:07 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: mlc9852
It's so much easier and comfortable to watch a movie in your living room. Perhaps the theaters will go the way of the drive-ins.

Yes, they will. And with the wide choice and easy availabilty of on demand movies on cable I predict the Blockbuster stores will also be all but gone soon.

148 posted on 12/24/2005 9:02:14 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You are right on the money. Methinks the 2006 Academy Awards Presentations is going to be a non-viewed episode. Actually everthing nominated is either in the tank or flushing down the toilet bowl. From gays to George Clooney's, Edward R. Murrow doc and Syriana, to the rash of failed comedy projects, and the weak opening of Speilberg's "Munich", Hollywood is going nowhere. The liberal, Democrat scum are living in a bubble that is about to burst.

I wonder when the executives of the major studios are going to wake up to the facts that they are losing their shirts. One might remember the Richard Gere movie " An Officer and a Gentlemen" where the "Black" Navy Drill Sargent says to his new recruit group, "There are two things that come out of Arizona, steers and queers"!!! Seems like we are getting a bellyful of sheep and queers, two species made for each other. I have no bias against gay folk, but the fact is, they are a tiny percentage of our population, and to highlight them as an acceptable mainstream group is going nowhere. Has anyone ever seen a really old gay person. What happens to gays when they get older. They have no family, no children, no support system other then their own disfunction. Sad commentary. No one has use or purpose for a burned out, old and non-performing gay. Think about it liberals and Democrat vermin before you hitch you star to a losing cause.


149 posted on 12/24/2005 9:20:25 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Hollywood is rolling in dough. It's the theater owners that are sucking wind. Hollywood makes money off foriegn distribution, cable screenings and DVD sales. None of which beneift theater owners at all. Hollywood doesn't need box office numbers, it can and does make up the money elsewhere. Even Waterworld wound up being a financial success for everyone but the poor saps that couldn't sell seats.


150 posted on 12/24/2005 9:23:30 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The studios aren't losing money. See #150.


151 posted on 12/24/2005 9:24:30 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Daralundy
I can't imagine why Hollywood is suffering at the box office with 2005 offerings like these...

(1) A "Western" featuring fudge-packing sheep-herders
(2) A "tearjerker" featuring a pre-op male-to-female transsexual
(3) Evil drug companies comitting genocide in Africa for profit
(4) Portayal of the Munich '72 murderers as freedom-fighting family men, and Israelis as bloodthirsty criminals
(5) Tales of a bi-sexual hitman

And these are just the Oscar front-runners! What else could American familes want to see???

152 posted on 12/24/2005 9:26:08 PM PST by montag813
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To: purpleland
These little guys are not men nor do they represent manliness, cannot even "act" manliness.

I totally agree. I was switching channels the other day and saw an old John Wayne movie. He looked like a refrigerator. And the bad guy looked like a moose. Imagine if Hollywood trotted out today's dainty little girlie male-leads back then, they would have had the crap beat out of them.

But no matter, this is a self correcting problem at this point.
153 posted on 12/24/2005 9:27:47 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Right Wing Assault
These fools don't realize they don't have nearly enough homosexual, lesbian, and pedophile priest, minister, and rabbi films. Make them and they will come.

They would also be wise to use any red state stereotypes as a punching bag. No one likes those people anyway. The funniest thing, set a red state type up, and then tumble them over. All audiences will eat it up!!!!!
154 posted on 12/24/2005 9:30:31 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: Daralundy
I think the movie industry in the USA is far more interested in foreign sales than USA box office. But alas, the increasing losses from overly-expensive movies with a leftist political agenda will come back to haunt Hollywood very soon.

They still haven't figured out the lessons of The Passion of the Christ, haven't they?

155 posted on 12/24/2005 9:31:27 PM PST by RayChuang88
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To: MamaDearest
The gay agenda IS being forcefully set upon us. Yes it is!

I was watching Robbie the Reindeer on ABC with my 5 year old grandson and the lead Reindeer was so gay acting( hands on the hips, flipping his hoofs, lisping when he talked) my grandson asked what was the matter with him and was he sick???

I said yes and changed the channel.

156 posted on 12/24/2005 10:19:49 PM PST by SweetCaroline (There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.)
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To: Tail Gunner John
"Bogart, Grant, and the Duke"

One thing those old movies did is tell good stories. That quality seems to be absent from many modern flicks. There's too many modern movies about some marginalized character's life that is boring after five minutes and death by the end of the movie. Together with the continual anti-American themes of many of them, today's flicks are simply too tedious to sit through.

That's why I agree with you. Nothing beats a movie that has the element of what-will-happen-next? in it. Most of the old great flicks had that constant tension it it. Today's flicks about some ahem alienated freak's miserable, dull life just don't do it for me. That is what is killing Hollyweird: dull stories and agenda-driven scripts.

157 posted on 12/25/2005 3:20:52 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Sam the Sham
True. The last Disney by Walt was made in 1973 (a pirate show if I remember right). That is, script, actors and actresses, selected by Walt before he died in 1965.

I believe it was released in 1975. Walt knew children and overall family taste very well.

Movies made by the Disney Studios after 1973 were heavy in those things as you say, resulting in the drop in revenues. I labeled them "bombs" as I was referring to the departure from the family type. There was a big drip in earning, all of which helped to bring out the today's Disney troubles.

You're right!

Did you see "It's a Wonderful Life" with James Stewart and Donna Reed last night? Now here is a classic made in 1948.

158 posted on 12/25/2005 5:41:33 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound (Treason Court for Kerry and the Leakers!)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

No, I don't think it was a departure from the family type. After all, remember how much money the main studios lost in the early 70's trying to repeat the success of the "The Sound of Music" with one big budget musical after another. Have you seen "Hello Dolly" ? That thing in present dollars must have cost a fortune.

It is that the family market wasn't there. A massive cultural paradigm shift was making the family movie as obsolete as the Ed Sullivan-style variety show. During the 70s cultural consensus broke down completely. The market fragmented into the cultural left and the cultural right. In TV the shows that appealed to older, rural viewers (Mayberry RFD, Gomer Pyle, Red Skelton Show, Petticoat Junction) were dumped in favor of the new sitcoms aimed at urban sophisticated audiences (All in the Family, MASH, Mary Tyler Moore Show, etc).

Disney did not depart from the family movie during the 70's. They just made the same stuff they had been making in the 50's and 60's for an audience that had outgrown them. They didn't adjust their saccharine depictions of kids to the fact that kids since 1970 grow up a whole lot faster. Children nowadays understand that babies don't come from storks.


159 posted on 12/25/2005 6:57:07 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Melas

That is a true statement. What we are going to see in coming years is movies going right to DVD and DVR. Theaters will be a thing of the past.

However with that comes critics reviews going away and other bias commentary. In addition, Hollywood will suffer even with foreign sales because it will get out that it no longer represents the values of America.

The left says we are hated worldwide. They are correct in their assessment. It is because the world views us through Hollywoods eyes. The homosexuality, anti-death penalty and other leftists values aren't even main stream in Communist countries. They are tools used to identify what is wrong in this world so they can eradicate it.


160 posted on 12/25/2005 7:42:36 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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