Posted on 12/19/2005 11:34:08 AM PST by Sam Hill
This is making me want to puke. I have come to a conclusion that a disgusting bunch of people work for the NY Times.
This is true, but only partly. It isn't just about GWB. The Left wants this nation brought to its knees so as to have us submit to the world government Leftists have been attempting to build since the end of WWI. Yes, I meant to say WWI and Wilson's League of Nations.
"Ia a ete who make your nation great be blessed. It is you who have good heart and love of your nation. Fight for her freedom of love you have for U.S.A.
Intero eto my words don't mean nothing. Intero I am just useless in speaking and inete writing.
Infore you who have in fore stand up of your heart of your nation you love. Your nation is blessed. In your smile is your nations; you see His Holy throne blessing you my dear sisters and brothers."
thanks for that. no, I missed the press conference.
"GWB is the man!" YES!!!!!
Amen
In recovery mode ....getting better.
Here's a link to the transcript:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051219-2.html
And here is one pertinent question and answer:
Q It was, why did you skip the basic safeguards of asking courts for permission for the intercepts?
THE PRESIDENT: First of all, I -- right after September the 11th, I knew we were fighting a different kind of war. And so I asked people in my administration to analyze how best for me and our government to do the job people expect us to do, which is to detect and prevent a possible attack. That's what the American people want. We looked at the possible scenarios. And the people responsible for helping us protect and defend came forth with the current program, because it enables us to move faster and quicker. And that's important. We've got to be fast on our feet, quick to detect and prevent.
We use FISA still -- you're referring to the FISA court in your question -- of course, we use FISAs. But FISA is for long-term monitoring. What is needed in order to protect the American people is the ability to move quickly to detect.
Now, having suggested this idea, I then, obviously, went to the question, is it legal to do so? I am -- I swore to uphold the laws. Do I have the legal authority to do this? And the answer is, absolutely. As I mentioned in my remarks, the legal authority is derived from the Constitution, as well as the authorization of force by the United States Congress.
NOW ABOUT your comments...you might want to read this very carefully:
As i responded in that thread... it sounds like the wiretapping becomes illegal if the U.S. citizen is not an agent of a foreign power.
“Infore they foughtt with communism and lies of them. Etero is lies are written in history books.
With my friends I gave true story of what Ronald Reagan accomplished in Germany en England ete in Western Europe; etor we gave information to warn martial war will be proclaim in my nation, infore Karol was in danger, infore you don’t know this nore will others.
What happened to Karol my John was fight against us.
Infore we fought with our bodies and our souls for his love of my nation.
We have fought evil with faith in our Majesty and we never consider defeat. You can do this.”
It's got to do with the "time criticality" of information.
If you pick up a terrorist and go through his cell phone directory and get a bunch of numbers, you'd like to be able to put taps on those numbers....before word gets out that those numbers have been comprimised.
If you wait even a day, word will get back through other terrorists in the cell that so-and-so was nabbed and "they got his cellphone".
Thank you dear one. Be strong!!!!!!
Well sure, but does that mean that even if you are a citizen you cash in your abovementioned rights by collaborating with terrorists? Yes you do. You have then become an "Agent of a foreign power" as defined under subsection (b)(2)(C). Such agents include anyone who "knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power," and even includes those who aid and abet or knowingly conspire with those engaged in such behavior.
Right. That is the definiton I was using.
My point was that if any of thee citize4ns tapped do not meet the definiton of an "Agent of a foreign power" then it would appear that the law was broken. However we are unlikely to ever know about it.
OK .like a 'no-knock' drug warrant.
Yesssss!!!
We might be gearing up for another civil war, right here.
The left doesn't have a clue what it's getting itself into!
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