Saddam and the Third Reich [History Channel NOW]

http://www.historychannel.com/ ^ | 12-18-2005

[VOA]

thanks for posting...I'd forgotten to tune into that!
(but I've got it on now!)

[VOA]

I've been watching 2 minutes and already The Grand Mufti has gotten mention...

[sierrahome]

I'm there! Thanks for the post!

[Vaquero]

watching it now

[edpc]

Saddam also admired Stalin. What great role models he chose. I guess he figured he could succeed where they failed.

[COEXERJ145]

At least it didn't open with

"A bad plan"

"A poorly executed bad plan"

"No plan for the peace"

This is how a show yesterday on the History Channel about Iraq started.

[FreeRep]

The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism, Nazi-fascism and todays terrorism have common political philosophy in the Arab world.

[Gay State Conservative]

And if you study Sadaam's past closely you'll find that he was a big,big fan of Uncle Joe Stalin.But many of those who are aware of this aren't bothered by it.

[MadManDan]

Nope, because those not bothered by it love Stalin too!

[ThreePuttinDude]

Great time for them to put it in the rotation.
Sunday 5:00pm est. when most are watching football
or spending a nice Sunday before Christmas with the family.

[ThreePuttinDude]

I love when they keep mentioning Baghdad.......

Great for our side.

[ThreePuttinDude]

But many of those who are aware of this aren't bothered by it.

That's why they are soooo upset with us taking him, Sodamn Insane, out of the picture.
Our home grown lefties and Hollywierd nutballs saw a hero in Hussein.

[USF]

PING!

[GRRRRR]

Very interesting program...I musta been sleeping during this chapter in my world history class.

Terrorism with roots in Nazism...

[FreeRep]

The fact is that about 100,000 European Muslims fought on the Nazi side in World War II. They included two Waffen SS Divisions, and helped run the death camps. I'm sure Hitler's supporters were antisemitic, just like todays antisemitic, like Cindy Sheehan, Dean's left, Code Pink, etc... saying "get Israel out of Palestine." Todays arabia national socialism and the new democratic party socialism all have their roots in Nazism.

[USF]

Worthwhile article:

The ideology behind the thuggery by David Brooks

(excerpts from page 2)

That style of prose, with its abstract categories, oracular tone, and twisted logic, can be found in party documents from Stalin's Soviet Union to Mao's China. Nonetheless, Tariq Aziz is right. The Baath party is not quite like the Communist parties. It bears stronger resemblance to the Nazi party because it is based ultimately on a burning faith in racial superiority. The revolution, in Saddam's terms, is not just a political event, as the Russian or French revolution was a political event; it is a mystical, never-ending process of struggle, ascent, and salvation.

As you read through Saddam's speeches and declarations, it is impossible to miss the Aflaqian tones and messages. Saddam gets fevered whenever he discusses the subject of the Arab volk. For example, in a speech to the Iraqi people last year, Saddam declared, in a characteristic outburst, "You are the fountain of will power and the wellspring of life, the essence of earth, the sabers of demise, the pupil of the eye, the twitch of the eyelid. A people like you cannot but be, with God's help. So be as you are, and as we are determined to be. Let all cowards, piggish people, traitors, and betrayers be debased."

He has extremist expectations for the Arab nation because he believes it has been assigned by God an eschatological mission. "We can state without hesitation that our nation has a message," he told an interviewer. "That is why it can never be an average nation: Throughout our history our nation has either soared to the heights, or fallen into the abyss."

In this mystical form, Saddam's pan-Arab zeal has managed to survive the death of pan-Arabism as a practical political project. Saddam's historical frame of reference is much wider. He leaps back to ancient glories and imagines future supremacy 500 or 1,000 years away. He fills his speeches with references to Nebuchadnezzar and Saladin, and one always gets the sense that he doesn't see them as distant figures, but as living presences, revived in him for the purpose of carrying forward the Arab spirit.

The inferiority of other peoples is also a frequent refrain. In one interview Saddam said that Arabs should never be Communists because there is nothing they could profitably absorb from a European idea, though it is perfectly acceptable for Africans or other inferior races to adopt communism as their creed:

"What does an African in Rhodesia have to lose when he adopts Marxism, since he does not have the historical depth or the intellectual heritage of the Arab nation, a heritage which offers all the theories necessary for a life of change and progress. The Arab nation is the source of all prophets and the cradle of civilization."

(Nice dose of an islamofascist sense of superiority, but there's plenty more to digest there...)

[AmeriBrit]

Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of the connection.

[VOA]

Interesting to hear about the Brits needing to attack/subdue Fallujah...
Some things never change.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Very interesting program.