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A day in the life of President Bush (12/17/05): photos & transcript of today's address
White House & Yahoo News Photos ^ | 12/17/05

Posted on 12/17/2005 1:00:51 PM PST by Wolfstar

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To: speekinout

I was in the group of 18-year-olds who were given the right to vote in 1972 (and I voted for Richard Nixon) and was very excited about the new right that was given to me and have voted in every election since. Had I been able to vote for JFK, I would have.

Can't say I'd ever vote for a dem now, no matter what the circumstance. Maybe if they were a Zell Miller democrat.


81 posted on 12/17/2005 2:35:05 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: snugs
happy chappie

I like that expression.

You're right. National security is nothing to trifle with, and they are doing it just to score political points.

82 posted on 12/17/2005 2:35:58 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Peach

Tomorrow's speech should be a barnburner

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I hope he includes that he has asked the Justice Dept to investigate the security leaks to the NYT.


83 posted on 12/17/2005 2:36:15 PM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: maica
Ha Ha Ha, John - that is never going to happen!!

Never. McCain is destiny is to be a footnote when histories are written about GWB's presidency.

84 posted on 12/17/2005 2:37:22 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: snugs
How 'bout that? LOL .... let's see .. how about a Christmassy picture of Pres. and Laura Bush alone .. is there one of them in front of a WH Christmas tree? Not would be nice .. on a BIG Plasma TV. If there's none of them alone .. then a Christmassy picture of him ..and thanks, when you have time.

I'm betting you went shopping today ... did you have some fun?? Buy lots of stuff? You missed the BIG speech in the WH this am .. W took the Sat. radio address LIVE on TV .. and he's mad. Check THIS out, if you haven't visited it.

I don't think I've ever heard you mention it: do you drive and have a car, or get around by local trans? .. Don't know why that just popped into my head, but it did. How was your traffic out shopping today?

85 posted on 12/17/2005 2:38:10 PM PST by STARWISE (THIS DAY WILL LIVE IN HISTORY! God Bless Pres. George Bush-NEVER FORGET what brought this day.))
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To: Wolfstar

The MSM like to point out that the GOP has control of Congress. But they don't - the "gang of 14" has 7 GOPers (including McCain & Graham), and there are several others like Hegel and Specter who aren't exactly Bush supporters.

I do have to give the Dems credit for outfoxing the GOP. Lott and DeLay were very effective leaders. They could get the Bush agenda passed. The Dems went after them, and now the GOP has Frist and Blunt - neither of whom is effective. And Frist thinks he can be President? I don't think so!


86 posted on 12/17/2005 2:41:10 PM PST by speekinout
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To: All

Who said: I will settle for nothing else than complete victory! - ??

Hint: I am rewatching an address to the Brigade of Midshipmen.

Second question: Why does the "media" not understand this? - /rhetorical only


87 posted on 12/17/2005 2:44:47 PM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: speekinout

I doubt anyone from the senate will win the presidency, with the possible exception of Clinton. I believe the next president will run from outside Washington.


88 posted on 12/17/2005 2:46:11 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: Theresawithanh
Can't say I'd ever vote for a dem now, no matter what the circumstance. Maybe if they were a Zell Miller democrat.

I don't think it's ever good to just vote on a party label. That's what got the Dems into such a mess, and if GOPers do it, too, we'll just wind up with more self-serving career politicians.
The Dems have been doing it so long that there are few good people in the party hierarchy. The GOP shouldn't follow that path. What I do is vote for the best candidate, but work hard to make sure that there are good people in the GOP pipeline. Local elections are where they get their start, and helping a GOPer win a city council seat could just be the way to get a good GOP candidate for Nat'l office 10 years down the road.

89 posted on 12/17/2005 2:48:35 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Wolfstar

I know the president is too good a man to show his anger on television in an obvious way; but I'm hoping he reminds viewers again (as he did this morning) that whoever leaked the information to the NYT broke the law.


90 posted on 12/17/2005 2:50:16 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: speekinout

"I don't think it's ever good to just vote on a party label. That's what got the Dems into such a mess, and if GOPers do it, too, we'll just wind up with more self-serving career politicians."

I cannot envision the democrat party ever nominating anybody for whom I would vote, not with the nutcases in their base responsible for putting the candidate before us. In that case I guess that would be voting along party lines, not totally a bad thing, IMO.


91 posted on 12/17/2005 2:51:51 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Wolfstar
I doubt anyone from the senate will win the presidency, with the possible exception of Clinton.

Isn't JFK the only one who has won from the Senate? I don't think hillary can do it unless the GOP puts up a really weak candidate.

92 posted on 12/17/2005 2:55:20 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Nightshift

ping


93 posted on 12/17/2005 2:55:55 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Peach
I'm hoping he reminds viewers again (as he did this morning) that whoever leaked the information to the NYT broke the law.

I hope so too, Peach.

94 posted on 12/17/2005 3:01:13 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: snugs

Not would be nice = NOW THAT would be nice ;)


95 posted on 12/17/2005 3:02:04 PM PST by STARWISE (THIS DAY WILL LIVE IN HISTORY! God Bless Pres. George Bush-NEVER FORGET what brought this day.))
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To: Theresawithanh
I cannot envision the democrat party ever nominating anybody for whom I would vote,

But can't you envision the GOP nominating someone for whom you could not vote? I would never vote for McCain. A Dem (other than hillary :-)) might be an alternative.

96 posted on 12/17/2005 3:02:19 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout
Isn't JFK the only one who has won from the Senate?

Warren G. Harding was also a sitting senator at the time he won the presidency, if memory serves. I think there might have been one sitting senator to win the presidency in the mid-1800's. Americans have a very strong tendency to elect presidents who have had recent executive experience.

97 posted on 12/17/2005 3:05:06 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: speekinout; Theresawithanh

If I could not in good conscience vote for the Republican candidate, I would either vote third party or not vote for president that year. I would never vote for any modern Democrat -- at least none of the Leftist pigs who are likely to win their nomination.


98 posted on 12/17/2005 3:08:01 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: All

Well, time for me to log off. See you all tomorrow.


99 posted on 12/17/2005 3:08:46 PM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: speekinout

"But can't you envision the GOP nominating someone for whom you could not vote?"

Most definitely! My choices would then be whether the candidate would get a hold-my-nose vote or whether to vote write-in candidate or to not vote at all. Not being wired to not vote and have my voice heard, I would wrestle with the first two.

"A Dem (other than hillary :-)) might be an alternative."

The comments in my first post to you cover that situation. Can't ever see it happening, not in this current climate, as I don't think the dems are ever going to get a clue and nominate someone I could support.


100 posted on 12/17/2005 3:13:33 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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