Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Boy, they just get wierder and wierder. This guy basicly says he doesn't give a damn what facts and reason say.
The one that has always dropped my jaw has been the one about the Grand Canyon and the Great Flood. This guy's statements about the Great Flood prove the old adage that you can't win an argument with a fool. Of course, the fool never realizes he is a fool so he just wouldn't understand why 3,000 scientists won't debate him.
Where do you get the idea that Hovind is fleecing people to the tune of millions of dollars???
That is totally ludicrious!!!
He produces materials that people are free to buy or not buy. He never goes to speak at any church without being invited and he does not charge churches to come.
Before you go around lying about the guy and making yourself look like an idiot, you ought to get a few facts.
No way is Kent Hovind a fool. He is a rich man, who got that way by exploiting the gullibility of fundamentalist Christians, and telling them what they want to hear. A very clever charlatan who makes use of the "one born every minute".
Now aren't you really showing your ignorance. The "theme park" is a hands on kids activity place in the back yard of his home. Any admission feee (which I think is 5 dollars) goes to support the missionaries that work there.
The facts as they pertain to the lying charlatan Kent Hovind are freely available on the internet. The best primary source that demonstrates his dishonesty is his own website. You only have to look at the ludicrous YEC arguments on his website (arguments so stupid and dishonest that even other creationist lie-sites like AiG say that they are stupid and dishonest) to see what kind of man we are dealing with here.
He makes very little money off the materials he produces because he does not copyright them. He allows people to copy them and do with them what they will.
He has some excellent materials at a great price. But he never tries to charge people more than what they are worth and if you called him today and told him you needed something and could not afford it, he would give it away to you for free.
I have personally seen him do that.
So stop trying to malign the guy and get your facts straight before you post lies about the man on a public forum.
I wouldn't have to buy any, he allows people to copy them and give them away.
But one of my favorites is where is exposes the frauds in evolution like Piltdoan Man, Glued Moths, human fetuses drawn to look like pig fetuses, the way Hawking pretends like the Law of recapitulation just doesn't exist. Oh, the list is long.
See, people who believe in the religion of evolution have to make us fairy tales to prove their "theory."
Sad.
Interesting. What exactly is your relationship with Hovind? Under what circumstances did you see him give his material away to the needy?
Oh yeah, now we have another ignoramous on the thread. Hovind is not rich by any means.
Why do you evo's have to create fiction to try and support your weak theories?
You can't prove the guy wrong so you try and pretend he is some Jim Bakker wanna be who is fleecing millions of people of millions of dollars.
What a crock. His amusment park is in the back yard of his three bed room home in Pensacola.
The lien against him is a matter of public record - one of the IRS agents on the case has publicly stated that they have records of bank deposits exceeding $1 million/year for Hovind. Estimating his income from the amount the IRS claims he owes is a simple matter - do the math yourself, if you like.
Also, Hovind's 1996 Chapter 13 petition to recover his cars was tossed out of court as a sham - the IRS never apologized and did not, to the best of my kowledge, return the cars. If they did, it's almost certainly because he paid the back taxes owed.
As for me lying about him, let him subpoena my identity from FR and sue me for libel. I'm more that willing to stand by what I said.
All the real frauds were all exposed by the normal process of science. Not one was exposed by a creationist. In fact Piltdown man was increasingly seen as an irrelevant anomaly precisely because it didn't fit in with the pattern of hominid finds. Because creationists don't have any theory that explains the pattern of fossil finds they had no basis for rejecting Piltdown.
Most churches would die for the freedom from fraud and error associated with ToE over the last 150 years, and its demonstrable ability to police itself and to discover its own frauds and errors.
AIG would like to think that they own the creationsim movement,but they don't. Their biggest problem with Hovind is that he tells them that they are not going to dictate to him. They hate that.
He also chastizes them for copyrighting their materials and trying to make a buck off the people who need the information.
They hate Kent for being generous and giving stuff away. It just makes them look selfish.
I have visited with Dr. Hovind on many occasions in Pensacola, including the "theme park."
I have had ample opportunity to observe his operation, every there is open doors. I am not a personal friend of his and there are areas which I would disagree with him, but I know that he is not some kind of rip off artist like you people would like to paint him.
I have seen him give materials away on more than one occasion and his materials are not copyright, so anything he sells can be copied and passed around. However, many people copy his stuff and then sell it. So more people make a profit off his stuff than he does.
Well bro, looks like you don't know squat then, because he has the cars back.
Better check your facts better next time.
THat would be interesting to see, but I doubt you can furnish it.
However, he does have a ministry where he goes and speaks to churches and he does sell products that he produces. Are you implying that he is not intitled to the fruit of his labor?
The point is that you don't know what you are talking about. YOu have stated things about Dr. H that are not true.
Why would you do something like that?
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