Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"

TIME.com ^ | Dec. 8, 2005 | Siobhan Morrissey

[R. Scott]

This is just one witness. I'll wait for further corroboration before reaching the conclusion that the marshals were wrong to shoot the guy.

Don’t depend on our “esteemed” MSM. They only witnesses that will be interviewed are those who claim the same – no bomb, no reason for the use of deadly force.

[JeffAtlanta]

Perhaps he wanted to detonate on the plane, but the marhsls pursuing him did not give him enough time to do it on the plane, so he ran outside, hoping to gain a least a couple of extra seconds to set off the device.

The marshals were only chasing him because he was running off the plane. They weren't chasing him because they caught him in the act of trying to detonate.

[ctdonath2]

Air marshals tend toward the .357SIG - so says my instructor who teaches them, and recommends that round.

[Howlin]

Those are the facts as given by Fox News today in an animation.

[Cboldt]

he refused and ran off the plane onto the jetway, stopped and turned toward the marshalls and started to get something out of his bag while being chased by the marshalls; they again ordered him down and he still refused and continued to open his bag.

This part may not be completely accurate. I'm not saying it's not, but just saying that the facts aren't all in.

As I recall, those are the preliminary facts reported by the Marshal service at yesterday's press conference. The man turned and made threatening moves or actions to marshals - the man was warned repeatedly to drop.

I agree the facts may not be complete, or accurate, but those are the facts as officially reported.

[Doogle]

am I right about this?

..yes you are right, when it comes to FAM's it's the head shot that ends the threat

..by the way...those were courics questions

Doogle

[JeffAtlanta]

Why are you trying so hard to justify the actions of a lunatic who charged up the aisle of the airplane waving his arms and disregarding the orders of the air marshals? Just curious....

Try reading my posts before commenting on them. I have said over and over that in the split second that the marshals had to act, they took the only course of action they could.

Why are you trying to so hard to come up with crackpot theories?

[ctdonath2]

but one or two more incidents like this and you can kiss the program goodbye...

Replaced with ... ?

[EDINVA]

does he remind you of the disqualified "Juror 15" in the Peterson case?

speaking of which, guess his 15 minutes expired the day the real jurors came in

[JeffAtlanta]

Those are the facts as given by Fox News today in an animation.

Agreed, but we've learned that facts in situations like these tend to be quite fluid. Remember after 9/11 how many of the stories reported the first day ended up being false?

[ctdonath2]

He was the opposite of blending in. ... Agitated people tend to get attention.

Agitated people who get attention can also be a grave threat.

[Doogle]

I bet she'd have a different reaction

..in the ladies room

Doogle

[Great Caesars Ghost]

I usually spend my time wondering if Brian is as dumb as he acts on TV, but every now and then he pulls one off, and that line this morning was brilliant. And he looked so proud of himself. He's unlistenable on the radio filling in for Tony Snow.

They all act like idiots on F&F, and I think it is because they're trying to be off-the-cuff funny and it falls flat a lot of the time. I should know, it happens to me plenty. But I've got to say, they get the interviews.

(Funny, knowing how others look when their humor falls flat doesn't make me feel better about mine. :( It seems to make it worse. And I'm not on TV.)

[Howlin]

What witnesses? This is the only one I've heard anything about.

Are you kidding?

Try reading the news.

[rlmorel]

JeffAtlanta,
I do not see where it makes any difference whether the plane was parked and chocked, taxiing or inflight. But then, I wasn't there...I have to depend on the likes of CNN to tell me about it, unfortunately.

[Cboldt]

Agitated people who get attention can also be a grave threat.

IMO, 100% of agitated people are a threat.

[EnigmaticAnomaly]

"And you can thank the cowards from the "Religion of Peace" for this little incident. They're the ones who have made action like this necessary."

Amen brother!

[JeffAtlanta]

What witnesses? This is the only one I've heard anything about. I've been waiting to hear if they confirmed the spokesperson's story of the guy claiming he had a bomb.

From CNN front page...

As investigators try to piece together the final moments before two air marshals shot and killed an American Airlines passenger, questions are arising about whether he made a bomb threat. Air marshals said Rigoberto Alpizar announced he was carrying a bomb before being killed but so far no passenger has publicly concurred with that account.

[Doogle]

LOL....we might even hear that before the weeks out

Doogle

[OldFriend]

Just Blitzed blah blah blah.

The man spoke english and was told to stop in english and again in spanish when he refused to stop.

I am thankful the marshall did his job.