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CA: Teacher exodus growing - Baby boomers' retirements to leave hole
LA Daily News ^ | 12/8/05 | Harrison Sheppard

Posted on 12/08/2005 9:32:57 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/08/2005 9:32:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Well, the LAUSD has a real, serious problem when it comes to recruiting teachers.

New teachers, just out of school, get assigned almost universally to the most dangerous, crime-ridden, gang neighborhoods. The teachers with seniority get to teach in the schools that are less dangerous.

It's easy for someone with a teaching credential in California to get a job...as long as he/she doesn't mind risking his/her life.

Try getting a job in one of the school districts in affluent areas, though, and you're out of luck. Beginning teachers don't want to risk their lives anymore than anyone else.

This is the LAUSD's real problem, but they can't do anything about it, due to their contract with the teachers' union.


2 posted on 12/08/2005 9:43:52 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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so I guess we will start importing teachers from the third world now? Is that another job Americans don't want to do..or has the left just made conditions sooo bad that even lib teachers can't stand the heat in their own kitchen.

classic.
3 posted on 12/08/2005 9:44:49 AM PST by catbertz
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To: NormsRevenge

They need to push the social opportunities for 20 and 30 something women. Maybe that will help recruiting.


4 posted on 12/08/2005 9:46:11 AM PST by neodad (My ex-wife is stuck on stupid.)
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To: MineralMan

Your last sentence says it all.


5 posted on 12/08/2005 9:47:54 AM PST by caisson71
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To: catbertz

The idiot liberals are demanding bi-lingual everything in the CA schools these days. MOst of the good english speaking teachers have probably had it and want the hell out of there. Soon to be replaced with any scumbag they can find that habla espanol.


6 posted on 12/08/2005 10:11:49 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: catbertz

We already are. In SC teachers from Romania are filling slots left vacant, especially in the "critical needs areas" which are math and special education.


7 posted on 12/08/2005 10:13:53 AM PST by MissEdie
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Wow..just wow. I can barely absorb the news these days without gettng an ulcer. WTF is going to happen to this country of ours? So sad
8 posted on 12/08/2005 10:16:59 AM PST by catbertz
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To: NormsRevenge

There is something wrong when Howard Stern is payed $500,000 million over 5 years for spouting porn on hte radio and we pay teachers less than 40,000.
Not to mention the sports figures salaries.

Something seriously wrong.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 10:21:22 AM PST by It's me
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To: NormsRevenge

I dont see the problem. We can just make Spanish California's first language and bring in teachers from Mexico for all those who dont want those jobs.


10 posted on 12/08/2005 10:29:52 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: It's me

Anybody who teaches for the money is in it for the wrong reason. Nobody makes those teachers take $40,000 or whatever they make. They could go into a more profitable field if they wished. Personally, only a handful of my former teachers were worth 40K.

To compare entertainers' and teachers' salaries is comparing apples to oranges.


11 posted on 12/08/2005 10:35:02 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: catbertz
It may not be as bad as you think, at least not everywhere in the inner city. I help my wife occasionally in South Central. I'm there all day, and visit up to eight classrooms.

In no case have I seen any blatant propaganda, and the teachers are anything but inept. Most of them are experienced, and those that aren't can rely on others to help. They are indeed teaching *phonics* at LAUSD, and the kids -- even those whose folks don't speak English -- speak it themselves without an accent.

I even saw a six-foot by three-foot posting of the PREAMBLE TO THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION and it was SIGNED BY ALL THE STUDENTS IN THE FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADE, at one school.

Religion isn't a taboo subject either, and Christmas trees are discussed without fear of reprisal.

Really, I've seen all this with my own eyes, and while many south-central neighborhoods are a little scary (posted about my wife's Friday school on another thread), most of them are well-kept, and the parents are mostly present and involved. One school's presentation (not a holiday program per se) was attended by nearly 200 moms and other friends and relatives -- a good turnout in most instances. The auditorium was full.

12 posted on 12/08/2005 10:37:01 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: NormsRevenge

Vouchers could help so much. The kids could get a quality education, and the state could spend much LESS on education. But the teachers' union will fight it because they don't want competition, and so the Dems will never allow it to happen. Better to let the schools continue their downward trend and let the students get a bad education than to let the Dems lose the teachers' union contributions. The Dems have their own set of priorities. After all, they care about "the children." /sarcasm


13 posted on 12/08/2005 10:59:22 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To compare entertainers' and teachers' salaries is comparing apples to oranges.

No, it shows where our priorities as a society are. We value entertainers more than teachers. A sports star can make a million dollar salary while some scientist looking for a cancer cure has to go begging for cash.

In Japan, teachers are very highly paid.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 11:03:56 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: Mugwump

Thanks for the positive side of the story. You and your wife are doing good things!


15 posted on 12/08/2005 11:05:16 AM PST by SueRae
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Happy to make the report! I was pleasantly surprised as well.


16 posted on 12/08/2005 11:06:51 AM PST by Mugwump
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To: L98Fiero

oh boy, do I absolutely agree that there are loads of teachers out there who are not even worth $5000!!!

But, do you think that if the pay was a bit better, then you'd get more qualified teachers?


17 posted on 12/08/2005 11:13:00 AM PST by It's me
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But, do you think that if the pay was a bit better, then you'd get more qualified teachers?

Nope.

The best people who could teach kids will not do it for any money. The best teachers are those who instill discipline, adapt their methods based upon students abilities and learning behavior, and reward success in a pro-active way. All ways that teachers are no longer allowed to teach.

Now teachers must follow zero-tolerance policies while following the pre-set methodology and syllabus requirements while catering to the lowest common denominator in the classroom lest a student fail.

Good teachers are leaving the profession because parents and politicians want them to help raise bratty little know-nothings. More money will not keep good teachers.

18 posted on 12/08/2005 11:22:57 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: NormsRevenge
The sooner the NEA and public school systems are shut down and defunded the sooner American kids with abilities can be focused on and guided towards training that will lead to 'real' jobs...the kind that produce new products and real goods..the kinds of goods that other nations desire..the kind that cause them to give us 'their' money for a change and help to reduce our trade deficit.

Without the negative impact of NEA education perhaps the kids will come away with real values..the kinds that reduce the numbers of children born out of wedlock,abortions,homosexuality, gang violence, drug addiction, theft, rape, and murder...

-wishful thinking

19 posted on 12/08/2005 11:42:02 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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LAUSD fired a bunch of teachers last year that they recruited from out of state!

As soon as their training was over, they were let go.


20 posted on 12/08/2005 11:43:52 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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