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Anti-Aging Finding Turned On Its Head
Source: University of Southern California ^

Posted on 12/04/2005 12:37:45 PM PST by narses

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1 posted on 12/04/2005 12:37:46 PM PST by narses
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To: narses; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

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2 posted on 12/04/2005 12:38:11 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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...said deleting the gene altogether in yeast resulted in a dramatically extended life span - up to six times longer than normal - when combined with caloric restriction and/or a mutation in one or two genes, RAS2 and SCH9, that control the storage of nutrients and resistance to cell damage.

But how about when not combined?

Though I can believe folks who eat less would tend to live longer. Less scale to clog up the pipes.

3 posted on 12/04/2005 12:40:50 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: narses

I always had a sneaking suspicion that immortality -> no sex drive. I mean, living forever obviates the need to reproduce, right? Sex only feels good because we wouldn't do it otherwise, and it's kind of necessary that we do it.


4 posted on 12/04/2005 12:43:32 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: neverdem

Ping


5 posted on 12/04/2005 12:44:35 PM PST by sourcery (Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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To: AntiGuv; PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl

pingworthy?


6 posted on 12/04/2005 12:47:38 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: narses
When mankind can live to 200 years wars will be way less prevalent. People will also be way more careful in how they live their individual lives.

The sociology of greatly increased life spans is fascinating to contemplate.

7 posted on 12/04/2005 12:48:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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'I cannot afford to age. I still have to generate offspring, but I don't have enough food to do it now',

Nothing worse than making whoopie when you're hungry and have food on the mind.


8 posted on 12/04/2005 12:49:58 PM PST by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: narses

Interesting - the boomers have always been on a self-improvement path - cosmetic surgery, invitro - a host of other selfish goals.

Aging is part of life - it is an assessment time where we can finally "get it" and it should be embraced as such in order to put down for history our findings. Not to run from the natural process, but try to stay as healthy as we can so our minds can impart the wisdom to those who will listen.

Do not get me wrong - I am all for improved life - but ad infinitum? No way. I am not certain I want to see that far ahead because I think we have made a bit of a mess of this planet and hope some who follow will concentrate on finding solutions to the problems we have created. Not just selfish goals like immortality.

One other concern - overpopulation. It is almost mandated that some of us die so make room for the young. Even if the young are less than plentiful - do not forget those civilizations and societies who are making huge numbers of their own.


9 posted on 12/04/2005 12:50:30 PM PST by imintrouble
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I have seen any number of studies that indicate people who are starving, just on margin, live longer.

This supports that idea.

10 posted on 12/04/2005 12:54:52 PM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: Mike Darancette

When mankind can live to 200 years wars will be way less prevalent.

Slavery abolished sans Civil War?

The sociology of greatly increased life spans is fascinating to contemplate.

It becomes seriously difficult to rewrite history. Would the founding fathers have not stopped FDR? Prohibition? WOsomeD? "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."? Income tax?

11 posted on 12/04/2005 1:03:37 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Zon
It becomes seriously difficult to rewrite history.

One sort of has to go forward with their speculations.

12 posted on 12/04/2005 1:12:28 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: King Prout

I think we've had a thread on this. I'm looking for it ...


13 posted on 12/04/2005 1:13:11 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Mike Darancette
The sociology of greatly increased life spans is fascinating to contemplate.

It is in the Bible :)

Gen:5:20: And all the days of Jared were nine hundred sixty and two years: and he died.

Gen:5:21: And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:

Gen:5:22: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:

Gen:5:23: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:

Gen:5:25: And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech:

Gen:5:26: And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:

Gen:5:27: And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

Gen:5:28: And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:

Gen:5:30: And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:

Gen:5:31: And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died.

Gen:5:32: And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Gen:6:3: And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Gen:7:6: And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

Gen:9:28: And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.

Gen:9:29: And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

14 posted on 12/04/2005 1:16:13 PM PST by A. Pole (Professor Kirke: ““It’s all in Plato! Dear me, what do they teach them in the schools nowadays?")
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To: King Prout; narses
Yeah, here's the earlier thread, same research: Study Challenges View on Aging Research [amazing implications].
15 posted on 12/04/2005 1:18:08 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: A. Pole
With those life spans Social Security would be in real trouble.
16 posted on 12/04/2005 1:18:39 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Nah, they'd just raise the retirement age.


17 posted on 12/04/2005 1:22:24 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: imintrouble

Aging is part of life.

Um, aging -- degenerative -- leads to death. As such it is part of death.

Not to run from the natural process, but try to stay as healthy as we can so our minds can impart the wisdom to those who will listen.

Staying as healthy as possible leads to youth-rejuvenating/non-aging immortality. History is replete with man increasingly understanding nature to control nature. And has greatly benefited from his ability to do what nature sans consciousness cannot do alone. 

I am all for improved life - but ad infinitum? No way. I am not certain I want to see that far ahead

"No way".... "not certain"? Seems you haven't given serious thought to the subject. Are you certain you want to die? And when would be a good time? 

Not just selfish goals like immortality.

Man, aside from the Dark Ages, has greatly improved himself, family and society. Men perusing science and business have not set out to harm or kill his fellow man. That cannot be said of leaders perusing religion and politics.

One other concern - overpopulation. It is almost mandated that some of us die so make room for the young.

Yeah, there's limited space in our solar system. [/sarcasm] Man's conscious mind is a problem soloing entity. Evidence history.

18 posted on 12/04/2005 1:27:25 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Mike Darancette

You may have to go forward with your speculations. I do not. I have no
such boundry limiting my thought process.


19 posted on 12/04/2005 1:30:08 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Mike Darancette
When mankind can live to 200 years wars will be way less prevalent.

I don't think so. People who start wars don't fight in them.

20 posted on 12/04/2005 1:31:02 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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