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Ten Marines killed in Iraq bombing. Details to come...
MSNBC ^ | 12/02/2005 | MSNBC

Posted on 12/02/2005 8:18:00 AM PST by Smogger

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To: Txsleuth

Yes, PMMD81 is her FReeper screen name. She's a coworker and we are cube-bound with a firewall that blocks many of the news sites.

This is Dusty's second trip to Iraq. He was one of the liberators of Fallujah during his first tour. The unit he is attached to is stationed in Fallujah now.

As is the practice when his group gets ready to "go out", he let his mom and wife know a few days ago that he would be gone for a week or so. That helps them know why he isn't calling.

This kind of news is understandably disturbing for her. But I actually think his group went to Ramadi. Small comfort, but it would mean he is not involved this one incident.


141 posted on 12/02/2005 10:27:42 AM PST by NerdDad (How is it that "Help me put up Christmas decorations" becomes "We have to shampoo the carpets"?)
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To: CondorFlight

It would be great if we were looking at one battle to win or lose on this war. But, what it has become is a policing action. And, the only question is how long we wait to allow the Iraqi to be the main police officers on the street instead of US forces.


142 posted on 12/02/2005 10:27:45 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: NerdDad

Tell her we are thinking about her....and could you please let us know if/when she finds out something about her son???


143 posted on 12/02/2005 10:29:56 AM PST by Txsleuth (9/11NEVER FORGET-NEVER SURRENDER, Sam Johnson, a REAL hero!)
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To: democratstomper
No. It is not only untrue, but simple minded to contend that any criticism of the C-in-C constitutes bashing of the troops. I guess you think that bad-mouthing Monty's tactical skills is equal to bashing the British troops in Normandy?

Nevertheless, what I was talking about was, as I plainly stated, false charges of 'celebrating the death of our troops.' Since you can't follow that one into the net, I guess you decided to move the target.

144 posted on 12/02/2005 10:30:59 AM PST by lugsoul
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To: NerdDad

Amazing. One more difference in WW2 & now. My mom was talking last week about how long the mail would take when my dad was overseas. And now, the mom and wife will get immediate word from their soldier if he is going to be beneath the radar for a time.
May God bless and keep safe this soldier and his family that you speak of. I well know his mother's anguish and worry. It is good she has a friend in you.


145 posted on 12/02/2005 10:38:03 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: CondorFlight
Are they such fools that they don't realize that the US forces are the only thing restraining the Shia and the Kurds from taking vengeance on them for Saddam's crimes?

Are you sure this is true? I see the Sunnis as a very organized armed force, with the training and personnel necessary to take over Iraq again in any civil war. The Shiites seem disorganized.

146 posted on 12/02/2005 10:39:45 AM PST by mikegi
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To: Smogger

So mad I could spit. God bless our poor men, fighting this PC war.


147 posted on 12/02/2005 10:43:25 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: mikegi

"Are you sure this is true? I see the Sunnis as a very organized armed force, with the training and personnel necessary to take over Iraq again in any civil war. The Shiites seem disorganized."

The Kurds are well armed and can field a considerable army. The Shia have their own militias, which have been being restrained by Sistani.
But in any contest, the Sunnis are only 20% of the population. They have the Ba'athist organization, and a few tribes, but they'd be facing all the rest of the country.
(Read: CSA versus USA, without any rules or nice-guy stuff, and you get the picture)


148 posted on 12/02/2005 10:46:35 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: mikegi

The Shia are sheep and would get walked over by the Sunnis.

The Sunnis have ruled Iraq for hundreds of years for a reason.


149 posted on 12/02/2005 10:46:48 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: Smogger

Now this is the kind of story the MSM relish 'planting'.

Condolences to all those who lost loved ones in this latest attack on the true 'freedom fighters' in Iraq.


150 posted on 12/02/2005 10:47:38 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NerdDad

Thank you for being there for PMMD81. The fear she is feeling is unfathomable for those who have not experienced it. I know that fear ... from a military wife's perspective. (My husband has deployed 4 times in support of the WOT.) Please tell PMMD81 that the chances of her son being involved in this incident are very low at this point. If he had been a casualty, she and her family would, in all likelihood, have been contacted by now. The military is very good about shutting down all communication coming out of the area of operations when an incident like this occurs and contacting family members before publicly announcing casualties. My thoughts and prayers go out to PMMD81. And thank you again for being there for her.


151 posted on 12/02/2005 10:48:29 AM PST by todayisagift
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To: CondorFlight

In case of a civil war the Kurds would break away and it would be the Shia vs the Sunnis. The Sunnis with support of nearby countries would do quite well, but not well enough to fight off the Iranian Army and the Shia.

It likely could degenerate into a bloody stalemate in the middle of Iraq.


152 posted on 12/02/2005 10:49:22 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Do not get this negative attitude because we do not have yet a full solution for the IED problem. The IEDs cannot defeat the most powerful military in history of man and we will eventually annihilate the terrorists in Iraq. We are becoming so sensitive to casualty despite that our casualties in Iraq are incredibly low in numbers. The terrorists are counting on us not being able to sustain few thousands dead troops but they are fatally mistaken.


153 posted on 12/02/2005 10:57:46 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: kabar
Great post, my thoughts exactly.
154 posted on 12/02/2005 10:59:22 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Seajay
I have NEVER heard one moonbat ever express glee at sad news like this.

Pull your head out of the sand buddy.

155 posted on 12/02/2005 11:02:02 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Txsleuth
Susan Estrich had over a million fake orgasm on Election Day up to 9:00 PM at night where she and 98% of liberals thought that Kerry had won the eelctions. At 10:00 PM she was interviewed by Brit Hume and the signs were already clear that President Bush was going to crush the democrats and Kerry, in that interview she was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. I really enjoyed her suffering that night.
156 posted on 12/02/2005 11:03:54 AM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: mikegi

Its possible to have a strong democratic leader. We had Washington. If it wasn't for him, the South might not have been as enthusiatic about the Revolution.


157 posted on 12/02/2005 11:04:18 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: jveritas

Do not get this negative attitude because we do not have yet a full solution for the IED problem. The IEDs cannot defeat the most powerful military in history of man and we will eventually annihilate the terrorists in Iraq.




I have no doubt the IEDs can not defeat the US Army. But, they can defeat the will of the US public to fight the war and the will of Congress to continue the war.

The public is poll wise where it was in 1970 when it came to Vietnam. I listen to a retired general a year ago give a speech about Iraq and in the question and answer session he was asked how many deaths the US public could take before the polls dropped so much that Congress forced the troops to come home. He said the number was about 3,000 and at that time I thought he was right and to this day I think he was right.


158 posted on 12/02/2005 11:07:27 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: jveritas

I have to say....that after that incident that I described earlier in this thread...whenever I see her on Fox...the channel is changed...

I never liked her before...but what she did that day SHOULD have caused her to lose her job at Fox, IMHO.


159 posted on 12/02/2005 11:07:53 AM PST by Txsleuth (9/11NEVER FORGET-NEVER SURRENDER, Sam Johnson, a REAL hero!)
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To: Smogger
My brother just joined the Marines Reserves but he is afraid to tell my mother, who is going to freak.

I'll be praying for her. My wife has problems with my son's decision. But it is his to make and we are both very proud of him.

160 posted on 12/02/2005 11:09:19 AM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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