Bush’s Bait - The president on immigration.

National Review Online ^ | November 29, 2005 | Rich Lowry

[Dane]

Whatever the reason is that you repeatedly come here day in and day out you are failing miserably

Get back to me when your hero pat buchanan is President.

[austinite]

which did abosolutely no good(economically or politically).

Unless at some point we need to actually ramp for a real war and make ships and tanks, other than that I say go ahead and close all steel plants.

[dennisw]

So MI, is saying the way to stop illegal immigration is to contract the economy(i.e put it into recession), isn't that throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Why not import the entire nations of Guatemala and Honduras here? This would expand our economy in the sense that some economic figures would be instantly larger. This would add the people (12 million) and GDP of these two cesspits to our own GDP. This would be a smart move in your eyes

[The Toll]

Actually I'll go ahead and get back to you right now, just consider it as charity. I need to validate your existence for you. As long as you actually have someone one here playing with you I think you get the feeling that you are doing your job. It really doesn't matter if your being effective or not your performance reviews are not results oriented.
I know you must be getting sick of this job because your arguments and sad retorts are repeating themselves much more frequently than they use to. You should get off of the Pat Buchanan thing and go back to the Racial Animus one. That one was really funny. No wait, the stabbing Delay in the back thing was good too.

[dennisw]

Get back to me when your hero pat buchanan is President.

Pat Buchanan has been on the case of illegal immigration for at least 15 years. He was way ahead of the curve. Darn right he gets credit on this issue

[Itzlzha]

I love how Lowry is now using another anymonous source from Time magazine to bolster his article. Looks like Lowry is the one taking the boob bait, hook, line, and sinker.

Dane keeps pooping up just like an good OBL Straw man, we keep knocking him/her down.

Nice how you can't refute the message, so you just attack the messenger, like a good little apparachik!

Dane, you are an OBL fool, and a shill for Illegal behaviour that supports Drug Trafficking, Terrorism, Murder, Robbery and Rape.

All for cheap lettuce, clean toilets, and profit over Principles!

[Dane]

Dane, you are an OBL fool, and a shill for Illegal behaviour that supports Drug Trafficking, Terrorism, Murder, Robbery and Rape

LOL, who is attacking the messenger now, especially with the customary over the top hyperbole.

[Itzlzha]

I bet you defended the Harriet Miers nomination, too.

DING-DING-DING!!!!

Wow...you must be psychic!

Just like the OTHER apparachiks here, it's Party over Principles...Profit over Principles, and "Cult of Bush" uber alles!

[The Toll]

I can only imagine what it would be like to have such a persuasive orator as yourself on my side of the argument. You are like Churchill in your brilliance. Look how many people you have won over on this thread alone. I am amazed at your talents. You are truly an unparalleled statesman.

[Dane]

Why not import the entire nations of Guatemala and Honduras here? This would expand our economy in the sense that some economic figures would be instantly larger. This would add the people (12 million) and GDP of these two cesspits to our own GDP. This would be a smart move in your eye

Now where have I said that, I haven't. I'm just not for MI's idea of contracting(i.e a recession) the US economy to solve the illegal immigrant problem.

I'm for a guest worker program which brings some sanity to an immigration problem and which doen't throw a wrench into the modern American economy.

[Dane]

I can only imagine what it would be like to have such a persuasive orator as yourself on my side of the argument. You are like Churchill in your brilliance. Look how many people you have won over on this thread alone. I am amazed at your talents. You are truly an unparalleled statesman

A master of sarcasm, you are not. Oh well I can't help it if you wish that I was silent about my opinions.

[The Toll]

How could we throw a wrench into anything. According to you American's are way to lazy to even consider picking up a wrench. Hell we probably couldn't even identify one to save our lives. We would need to hire an illegal to throw the wrench into the economy for us. We are to weak and flabby to pick up such a heavy thing.

[Dane]

How could we throw a wrench into anything. According to you American's are way to lazy to even consider picking up a wrench. Hell we probably couldn't even identify one to save our lives. We would need to hire an illegal to throw the wrench into the economy for us. We are to weak and flabby to pick up such a heavy thing.

Get back to me when you have a bad word about the NEA, who are doing much more damage to the American education system.

[Spiff]

This guy gets it. He's saying what I've been saying.

Now, we just need to beware the President's bait and switch he's going to try to pull next year. And we need to keep the pressure on.

[The Toll]

I am still waiting for your single conversion to appear. The only reason to participate in political debate is to influence others. You are a total failure in that regard and I will remind you of that everyday if need be.

[Dane]

I am still waiting for your single conversion to appear. The only reason to participate in political debate is to influence others. You are a total failure in that regard and I will remind you of that everyday if need be.

Yeah know you spend an awful lot of time and energy saying I'm a failure, kinda of like the democrats who spend an awful lot of time and energy saying Iraq is a failure.

[The Toll]

You are incapable of persuading anyone to your view. You are terribly weak in your arguments. I feel like I should help you explain your position better just for the sake of pity. I feel the same way about the administration half the time. When are you ever going to win a convert? Why do you try? You are so terribly bad at it.

[SC33]

No it is not. There are many areas in this country where a teenager can no longer find a job that pays even a reasonable wage. Believe me, this was very recently for me.

[TXBSAFH]

I had an interesting discusion yesterday. A friend of mine made an interesting aurguement that the illegal immigrants were a bigger threat to the long term US nation/economic security then Al Qaeda. His arguement was basically that though the terrorist could sting us they could not really do much major damage. 911 basically distroyed 12 city blocks and killed just under 3000 people. More then that will day this month in traffic accidents. That as bad as 911 was it was a pin prick and illegal immigration is a knive to the throat of the middle class. They raise taxes and lower wages for the middle class. And as we all know it is the middle class and it's consumerism that drives the economy.

[Spiff]

I love how Lowry is now using another anymonous source from Time magazine to bolster his article. Looks like Lowry is the one taking the boob bait, hook, line, and sinker.

Just when I thought you couldn't make more of a fool of yourself, you step up and outdo yourself. You can't begin to argue against Lowry's points with any substance, so you attack the messenger.