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There Is No God
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| 11/21/05
| Penn Jillette
Posted on 11/27/2005 6:32:15 AM PST by machman
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To: Walkingfeather
That's not exactly true. Penn and Teller don't want you to believe what you see on stage is real. They want you to leave never understanding how they did it, which isn't the same thing. They're very up front that it's all illusion and trickery. No real deception on that level at all.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:51:03 AM PST
by
Melas
(What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
To: bobbdobbs
Yes, true. But at least we will have a transcendent system whereby to say, "this is wrong, this is unjust, this is evil" not just because I say so but because the One who created the world says so. We have the means to resist popular or tyrannical will because we know the will of the One who created all things.
To: Mountain Dewd
"I can read ideas from all different people from all different cultures."
What's he trying to say? Sounds like a typical liberal to me.What are you trying to say? That you should not expose yourself to different cultures and ideas?
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:52:18 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
To: Wormwood
"I like that he is able to profess his belief without calling anyone "chump" or "idiot". Or quoting his holy book to prove that his god was god, or in this case, to prove there is none. One might as well prove the truth of Communism by quoting Marx.
It is not selling anyone on Christianity to claim this man is a chump or liberal. He's a fine magician and possibly one of the best advocates of skeptical thought and logic today. If that doesn't make him an advocate for limited government, I don't know what does. This is, after all, a man who co-hosts the program 'Bullshit!' and used that bully pulpit to demolish PETA. He used it to tear apart the false god of recycling. And he used it to savage the fools that be in environmentalist causes.
Those who can't see that calling someone "chump" or "idiot," or falsely tagging them as a liberal isn't Christian, I pity ,for their empty, false claims expose their inability to even approach practicing what they preach.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:53:01 AM PST
by
LibertarianInExile
(Cowards cut and run. Marines never do. Murtha can ESAD, that cowardly, no-longer-a-Marine, traitor.)
To: RoadTest
I've noticed over the years that those (such as the author of this article) who feel it necessary to run around spewing their athiest beliefs have 2 issues-
1. Most often, they really believe in God but are VERY ANGRY at God, usually due to the tragic death of a loved one, or
2. They CRAVE attention.
Most of the REAL athiests in the world just want to be left alone.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:53:12 AM PST
by
Muzzle_em
(I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
To: Melas
They're very up front that it's all illusion and trickery. No real deception on that level at all.For what it's worth, they've never claimed they can heal the sick if you just send them a check.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:53:37 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
To: Junior
History tells me that you are living an illusion. If you think that removing a transcendant source for right or wrong is going to settle the world's disputes, you are living in la-la land.
To: bobbdobbs
You think your belief gives you a get-out-of-jail-free card, but Athena might not like you worshipping other gods. Reminds me of the South Park episode where a bus unloads its cargo of souls in hell and the people protest that they were "insert religion here" only to be told sorry that was the wrong religion.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:53:52 AM PST
by
CzarNicky
(The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
To: mad_as_he$$
Narrow minds, you say? Well, just let me share a little testimony of WHO God is to me. My life was once in bondage to the demon COCAINE. For 20 yrs., I snorted, smoked and injected it. It took me to lows that I never dreamed imaginable. I tried EVERY conceivable way under the sun to break this horrible bondage in my life. And then...I met JESUS...Hallelujah. My life has been transformed from one on utter hopelessness to one the GREATEST HOPE possible...ETERNAL LIFE WITH MY LORD, KING, AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. I am free from the bondages that once possessed my life...II Corinthians 5:17--"Therefore, if any man be in Christ, he is a NEW CREATION, Old things are passed away and all things become new."
I now work with a Christian program where I counsel young men who are struggling with life controlling problems, and there is nothing more rewarding than seeing these young lives transformed by the power of a LOVING, COMPASSIONATE GOD!!!..."MY GOD IS REAL...FOR I CAN FEEL...HIM IN MY SOUL!!...Narrow minded you say...SO BE IT!!
To: mad_as_he$$
Intolerance is the biggest cause of many woes in society. Too funny, That's a good one ... Do you also you think that Christians are the most 'Intolerant' of them all?
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:56:47 AM PST
by
TexGuy
To: Hodar
Liberals are, by far and wide; very unhappy and miserable people. They hate their lives, and everything American. Here's a news flash for you: he's more on the political right than left. And he's had plenty of good things to say about America.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:56:47 AM PST
by
mc6809e
To: CzarNicky
Reminds me of the South Park episode where a bus unloads its cargo of souls in hell and the people protest that they were "insert religion here" only to be told sorry that was the wrong religion.
That was reshown last week; everyone newly arrived in Hell was at an "Orientation" session and a bunch of them complained "I was a devout Catholic, why am I here? "I was a devout Buddhist, why am I here?" etc....so they finally asked who was right, and the orientation leader said "The Mormons, the Mormons were right." And then they cut to Heaven filled with a bunch of Mormons in ties...hilarious.
To: Junior
I believe that God has infinite understanding, patience and compassion, and that He loves us all, no matter how arrogant we may be. But God is not mocked, and I'm not sure how He will deal with being willfully denied, especially in the presence of so much evidence to the contrary, which anyone can see did not just ooze out of some random weather event.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:58:09 AM PST
by
Sender
(Team Infidel USA)
To: G Larry
Atheism is simply an excuse to make up your life rules as you go along. "You" determine what is right and wrong. As a former atheist, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're trying to ascribe a particular motive to atheists, for reasons I do not know, but the agenda to assign the motive is clear.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:58:10 AM PST
by
Melas
(What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
To: machman; The Drowning Witch
IRONY -- An atheist juggling fire.
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:58:28 AM PST
by
Jackknife
( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
To: RoadTest
Psalm 14, Verse 1 "The fool hath said in his heart, "There is no God". And the fool hath said, "let's use a 2,000 year old nomadic philosophy in the 21st century!"
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posted on
11/27/2005 7:58:28 AM PST
by
mc6809e
To: Jackknife
Well, I'm unaware of Penn ever being seriously injured in a trick (he may have but obviously it can't have been that bad) and they do a ton of dangerious stuff.
To: Strategerist
How about comparing the three possibilities to what a small child might feel when getting an inoculation:
1) you're not my real dad
2) dad is evil
3) dad loves me but can't stop bad things from happening to me
There is at least one other option:
4) what is happening may have a purpose I do not understand yet
(Option 4 requires trust.)
John 13:7
What I am doing, you do not know now, but you shall know hereafter.
To: mc6809e
My brone-age beliefs are better than *your* iron-age beliefs!
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posted on
11/27/2005 8:00:26 AM PST
by
Wormwood
(Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
To: Wormwood
I wasn't surprised that an entertainer would state such an unpopular opinion in a pubic forum Stating this on Nation Public Radio is no surprise, it's the opinion of the majority of its listeners. If someone of faith was given serious time on NPR, then I would be surprised.
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