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Tuesday's Defeat - The Senator's thoughts on the special election..Tom McClintock
CaliforniaRepublic.org ^ | 11/14/05 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 11/14/2005 9:02:02 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: Grampa Dave

The Republicans sure weren't helping out Arnold. I got several mailers from Dick Armey asking me to vote against the re-districting but saying saying nothing about the other propositions. The only other mailers I got were from Arnold's group. The sad fact is most elected Republicans pols LOVE the current districts since it ensures a safe seat even though it's in a guaranteed minority.


41 posted on 11/14/2005 11:18:05 AM PST by fifedom
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To: tophat9000

Good for the voters of Orange County.

A pox on the walk on water conservatives like my two neighbors who sat out this election.

These same A$$holes proudly sat out the 92 and 96 elections and proudly helped the Clintoons into office to rape and plunder America. They weren't that proud of Reagan until his second term.


42 posted on 11/14/2005 11:19:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Most of those so called California conservative critics, who didn't vote and stayed home in a temper tantrum are those who perceive themselves as the Pure Walk on Water Conservatives. They had rather bitch about something in their lunacy than do something about the problem. They spend more time stabbing Arnold and GW in the back than eliminating liberals.

You hit the nail on the head.

We can see examples of this every day on FR. The huge number of Bush haters all because he doesn't do as they demand on their single, stupid pet issue.

43 posted on 11/14/2005 11:21:11 AM PST by COEXERJ145 (This Space For Rent)
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To: fifedom

"I got several mailers from Dick Armey asking me to vote against the re-districting but saying saying nothing about the other propositions. The only other mailers I got were from Arnold's group."

I didn't get that mailer, but several republicans did. One couple decided to sit out the election, because they were confused after the Armey mailer came in. However, it backfired with another couple, they voted and sent Armey a note to mind his OFB.


44 posted on 11/14/2005 11:22:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: COEXERJ145

"We can see examples of this every day on FR. The huge number of Bush haters all because he doesn't do as they demand on their single, stupid pet issue."

Clearly and sadly stated.


45 posted on 11/14/2005 11:24:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: Wolfstar

"Time and time and time and time again, I have seen such so-called real conservatives find something to get their knickers in a twist just in time to either not vote or vote for some fringe candidate or third party to "send a message."

Maybe they can form a third party of those with Twisted Knickers over some petty thing or nothing.


46 posted on 11/14/2005 11:25:36 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: lawnguy

Arnold vetoed over 200 rat bills this year so far. A couple of cpas who monitor this activity said that those vetoes saved us billions in taxes this year and every year.

I wasn't that great of a fan of Pete Wilson's, but I kept voting for him because of his vetoes of the insanity from Willie Brown and other rats in the legislature.


47 posted on 11/14/2005 11:29:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave (MSM/RATs need to set a timetable for withdrawal in their illegitimate war on Bush. It's a quagmire.)
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To: NormsRevenge
... When the next crisis comes, the Governor will find a new appreciation among Californians for what he was trying to do in this election, and a more receptive electorate to do so in the next.

BS ~ when the next crisis comes the ilk will know just what to do to negate any gains by the right.

48 posted on 11/14/2005 11:36:40 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: little jeremiah
... Are they French?

The ilk? Nah, they're phonies, just liberal scum pretending to be conservative in order to scare the middleground from joining us on the right.

49 posted on 11/14/2005 11:39:48 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: lawnguy
"Does the Cal. Governor have the line item veto?"

YES!


But little Petee Wilson(the last RINO governor we had and this RINO's "adviser" has yet to inform the governor about it. LOL)

Bottom line:
Schwarzenegger failed to take advantage of his popularity poll numbers when they were in stratosphere the first few months of his office when he could and IMO should have taken McClintock's "13 Percent Solution" and ran with it!

The state budget deficit would have been virtually eliminated by now and revenues would have pushed the state into the black at which point he could have initiated the elimination of the state income tax which in turn would have not only convinced companies like Nissan to stay in CA but other companies to move here.

But that is all water under the bridge and you can pretty much put a fork in Schwarzenegger now.
He'll be packing up and going back to the movies in 2007 where he'll know what to say and do because he'll have a script. LOL
50 posted on 11/14/2005 11:41:52 AM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
... But that is all water under the bridge and you can pretty much put a fork in Schwarzenegger now.

Stick your fork in California conservatism now. The right hasn't a chance now, thanks to the extremists, and, of course, the ilk.

51 posted on 11/14/2005 11:45:24 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

I hope you are not expecting a response from me on your post...

I have a long memory and I didn't like the insult you posted in 7/2005.

You still owe me an apology...
and no I haven't been holding my breath but you are indeed a disappointment in my book.

so you can forget about posting to me in the future until you apologize for your insulting remarks made to me in July.

cyaaaaaaaa


52 posted on 11/14/2005 12:09:07 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
hope you are not expecting a response from me on your post...

You just responded, bright boy. Here's your apology, rolled up, now shove it.

53 posted on 11/14/2005 12:10:29 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've told my wife that the solution to California's fiscal problems will not come from within the state, but from Wall Street.

When California's bond rating gets to "junk" status, and no one will lend the state money, that's when you'll see change.

Best Regards

Sergio


54 posted on 11/14/2005 12:12:06 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: 68 grunt

"Here's your apology, rolled up, now shove it."

you're a reeeel "class act" ...

and any day you think you have the balls to insult me to my face, you just let me know..."bright boy" LMAO


55 posted on 11/14/2005 12:14:36 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Grampa Dave
These same A$$holes proudly sat out the 92 and 96 elections and proudly helped the Clintoons into office to rape and plunder America. They weren't that proud of Reagan until his second term.

Then by definition I would say these were not conservative base but "stick a finger in the wind", go with the flow, mushy middle moderates, the "me to" hop on the band wagon types" totally fickle in there core beliefs go with whatever is pop, hip and cool at the time

In other words Arnold's Hollywood Action Hero star struck "core base" of 2003 that has now bailed on him now that Arnold's glitter is gone

Gee who would of thunk it? /sarcasm off

56 posted on 11/14/2005 12:17:33 PM PST by tophat9000 (CA politics …San Andres Fault is now the San Andres Fix)
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To: kellynla

I'm in LA, you backed out before, what changed?


57 posted on 11/14/2005 12:17:53 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

"you backed out before?"


Show me anywhere, any post and/or freep mail where you offered to meet me?


58 posted on 11/14/2005 12:26:42 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Grampa Dave
However well I understand your frustration, promoting that perception doesn't accomplish anything beneficial.
59 posted on 11/14/2005 12:27:55 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: kellynla

Me? I offered to stand between you and Southhack, make sure it was an honorable encounter. Thats when your feelings toward me first went sour. Thats when my impression of you went south.


60 posted on 11/14/2005 1:17:31 PM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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