Posted on 11/14/2005 5:51:48 AM PST by Cagey
When negative behavior affects other people trying to do business or enjoy something the children should be removed. The mothers don't have control that's why they let them do what they want. Plain and simple.
Me too.
One of these days, you're gonna stick your nose into somebody's else's business and get it blown off.
If you have a problem with that, too bad.
Great! I love it.
That does tell you something about society, doesn't it?
Wow, that was excellent! I would hate to be a school bus driver, but you really seem to have come up with a method that would work.
susie
Why would you even think saying "shhh" to a one year old would have any effect at all???
susie
parenting your child effectively doesn't require corporal punishment, so i fail to see how an insane parent that ends up KILLING their child has any bearing on ineffectual parenting.
So, something that made my day today.
Over the weekend, I had dropped my kids off with my folks so wife and I could do some early XMas shopping.
When we got, my Dad told us that he'd taken the two oldest to a bakery in town to get some sweets.
Today, he calls me and wanted to thank me and to say he was proud of me.
Why you ask?
On the way home, my oldest son says, "Thank you for taking us to the bakery grandpa."
My dad said that he was proud of the way I was teaching my kids and that I was doing a good job. I let him know that I had the best teachers, him and my mom.
Have a good Monday everyone.
Many do not understand the difference between discipline (from disciple) and punishment.
"Spare the rod and spoil the child" isn't about hitting with a rod, it's about gently but firmly using the hooked end of a shephard's staff to return a wandering sheep to the fold, to keep the it from becoming lost.
My point was, it's amazing that any child reaches adulthood with some of the insane parents raising them. What's the line in the movie Parenthood? "You need a license to drive a car, hell, you even need a license to catch a fish, but they'll let any butt reaming asshole be a parent."
They'll probably get to vote on euthanasia for us when we're old, too.
Good for you - you and your husband need the positive reinforcement. I was in a restaurant a few years ago, there were a couple of monster kids running around, screaming, bothering other diners. Of course the parents did nothing. There was another booth with a young couple with 2 kids just about the same age. These kids were very well behaved. I made a point of stopping at their table and complimenting the kids and their parents. I know it's sometimes hard to keep your kids in line - especially when they see other kids acting like cartoon characters.
One of the funniest things I ever heard was in a restaurant in Greektown in Detroit. In a fairly nice (and pricey) restaurant there was a child that was running from table to table, grabbing things, screaming her head off - the typical monster child stuff. Of course, the parents were doing nothing. The manager had already spoken to the people. A woman patron finally stood up, walked over to the table and said, "If you don't shut that kid up, I'm going to pick her up and throw her through that window. And you'll thank me for it because that child is POSSESSED!"
The entire restaurant broke into laughter and applause.
GUARANTEE you everyone one of these whining women employ 'time out' as a form of discipline.
My youngest was my *test*. My other two were fairly easy (oldest was busy, but not all that ornery). My youngest made me pull my hair out, and at HOME we had some real knock down drag outs to put it mildly.
He also had some moments in school that were difficult to say the least. There were times I really questioned my effectivness as a parent. I am glad to report that he recently graduated from college and is fine. And interestingly, most of his teachers thought he was a hoot (I didn't).
And, yes, even he was required mind his manners in public. So, I do understand about difficult children.
susie
i agree, there are horrible parents out there. the ones that abuse and neglect and the ones that think they are raising the crown prince and instead turn out some self centered monster who has no idea what boundaries are, bc he has always set his own!
I guess the same EXCUSE could be applied to parents. You have the alternative of taking them out of the restaurant or teaching discipline before exposing them to the Innocent public. Remember the old saying... "Your Freedom Ends Where Mine begins."
It worked but I had a lot of parents complain. But I think the kids respected me for it. Thats a big part; wrong or no discipline = no respect from kids. <----- me in my youth.
My wife and I were talking with a security guard at the Medford shopping mall. Subject of children came up somehow and she said the if they saw a mother or dad spanking their children in the mall they were "under orders to hold them for the police for child abuse"
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