Intelligent Design Grounded in Science

CBN ^ | November 2005 | By Gailon Totheroh

[VadeRetro]

Are all creationists too cowardly to admit that they were wrong about even one thing?

Apparently.

On this thread, Liberty Wins mischaracterized the status of Australophithecus in science. Lumped it with Piltdown Man.

Called on that, he tried to justify it with a misleading 1971 Richard Leakey quote from before the discovery of Lucy and at any rate referring to A. robustus. (Leakey has since made it absolutely clear he thinks Lucy and the other gracile australopithecines were bipedal.)

Why can't a creationist be a man and at least admit what anyone can see anyway? Liberty was yapping about "evo hoaxes" when his own post was the hoax. Two hours later, crickets chirping.

Why is it always like this? The silent slink-off, or the endless Dummy Dance?

And the answer is: How else do you show up back again dumb as a stump with the same stuff? If creationists threw away an argument after it was discredited, we wouldn't HAVE these threads.

[Coyoteman]

Liberty Wins mischaracterized ...

Called on that, he tried to justify it with a misleading

See aforementioned man's profile page.

[VadeRetro]

And here are the China and Burgess Shale sites in their proper perspective:

Taxonomy, Transitional Forms, and the Fossil Record

The discovery of new soft-bodied fossil localities is always met with great enthusiasm. These localities typically turn up new species with unusual morphologies, and new higher taxa are built from a few specimens! Such localities are also erratically and widely spaced in geologic time between which essentially no soft-bodied fossil record exists.

You are citing one of the most spectacular instances of soft-bodied preservations ever to justify arguing from the holes which surround it. Obnoxiously dishonest. Might as well say if a young woman named Paula Radcliffe can run 26 miles and 385 yards in two hours and fifteen minutes, everyone and anyone can be expected to do that.

You are playing the usual creationist game of slippery misrepresentation and even more slippery escapes. I'm sure you'd love to be presenting to the ninth-graders in biology class.

[balrog666]

If creationists threw away an argument after it was discredited, we wouldn't HAVE these threads.

Worth repeating.

[VadeRetro]

Yet ANOTHER reason a creationist can't be a man. Half of them couldn't pass the physical.

Funny. It's not like I don't think about women a good bit of the time...

[moog]

Yet ANOTHER reason a creationist can't be a man. Half of them couldn't pass the physical.

Hey, I'm a creationist and a man. And what do you mean I can't pass the physical? I can roll 100 yards in 30 seconds!!!

[VadeRetro]

Full credit. You're not in THAT half.

I couldn't catch Paula on a bicycle, myself. She's my favorite athlete since she stopped to take a whiz in mid-race, thus giving the paparazzis and voyeurs of the world a thrill.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

How about this for your troll kit?:


"It takes more faith to believe in random chance..."

[moog]

I've gotten faster since I started training to be a bowling ball.

[PatrickHenry]

Why is it always like this? The silent slink-off, or the endless Dummy Dance?

Because ID isn't science; it's trolling.

[PatrickHenry]

How about this for your troll kit?: "It takes more faith to believe in random chance..."

It's good, but it's too long for the size of the cells.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

I was afraid of that. "It takes more faith..." might be enough but it could be a little vague.


Well, just thought I'd throw that out there; anything to help DarwinCentral, the conspiracy that cares. :)

Your humble foot soldier.

[VadeRetro]

It's good, but it's too long for the size of the cells.

Hah! THE DESIGNER put a billion times more information than that into a million times smaller cells and that's all an evo can do?

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[Youngblood]

What scientific enquiry?

[Youngblood]

Evidence please...

[VadeRetro]

Patrick, I think your troll kit is being overused already!

[PatrickHenry]

I know. It's now at my homepage: Evolution Troll's Toolkit.

[PatrickHenry]

Oh, I thought you meant I was posting it too much.