Mapesgate (We are now the KKK!)

dallasobserver ^ | 11/10/05 | Jim Schutze

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Listen, some of my favorite neighbors are pro-Bush, and they're surprisingly decent people.

I stopped reading right there. Surprisingly decent? What an a-hol'ish thing to say.

[Cicero]

That was one of the several hundred ludicrous statements I wavered over. I've seldom read such a silly article. You really have to wonder what the press is coming to. In the old days they may have been leftists, but they had a facade of dignity and common sense.

[papertyger]

Certainly on the technical side of this I am not a good arbiter.

Then why are you trying to be one?

You don't have to be an expert on forty year old typewriters to be an expert on moden proportional fonts and typefaces, and the Internet is surely full of those.

This argument is predicated on the writer's own admitted ignorance.

[Tarpon]

The KKK used to come to our door the night before elections -- the code phrase was "you are going to vote the right way, right?" Usually about 5 or 6 thugs with Democrat campaign crap and Confederate flags -- Dad always said yes, he was 100% Democrat. Everyone in the neighborhood knew what was going on, no one did much stop it. If you protested, there were consequences.

When dad closed the door I would ask him why he said that? All he would say was 'I don't want no trouble, I can vote how I want on election day'.

[Bob from De]

I've long thought that liberals were narcissists.....now I am totally CONVINCED.

Superiority, grandiosity, entitlement,etc.

How many of her experts have logged over 500 hours behind the controls of an F-102?

[Range Rover]

Ms. Mapes (and anyone who has even a smattering of a doubt that the documents could be authentic), you should read a thorough analysis by an expert in the field:

http://www.flounder.com/bush2.htm

The documents are fake, fraudulent, a total fabrication...Ms. Mapes, you have absolutely no excuse to claim otherwise except that YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL LIAR.

No go crawl into a little hole and enjoy your status as a small footnote to a pivotal day in history.

[pabianice]

What can In say. Many times during my tour in Vietnam in 1970-1971, when I sat in my Navy squadron's Admin Office working on official forms, I would complain how my Dell Inspiron Pentium 4 laptop was misbehaving, how the computer's version of MS Word for Windows 98 was giving me trouble, or how the LaserJet IV printer had jammed again. This poor woman's victimization by an evil White House is shameful.

[Reactionary]

I guess since the "fake but accurate" idiocy didn't pan out we're now stuck with "prove they aren't authentic" canard.

This may shock the incurably stupid left, but in matters of logic one is required to prove the veracity of an assertion. If the documents were asserted to be authentic, then it's up to Bong Hit Mapes to prove it.

[purpleland]

Is that actress Linda Hunt in your photo?

[Always Right]

I don't even care if you still think the Guard documents are fake. None of that is the point for me.

Defies all logic. People are the KKK if the dare accuse the media of using fake documents to try to take down the president. The media is entitled to use fake documents on national TV to defame a person, and the media is above criticism when they get caught???

[Repub4bush]

That sounds downright scary!

[txhurl]

Wow, that's a young Linda Hunt.

[VeniVidiVici]

Didn't the other thread say that even Mapes herself didn't say the docs were authentic, that they were just never proven to be fakes?

Typical journalist answer.

[Dems_R_Losers]

Hey Mary!

The President of The United States

Deal with it!

[knuthom]

In the book Mapes presents expert opinion and evidence that the accusation--all the stuff about typewriters, superscripts, proportional spacing and typefaces--was just wrong. She says the people who presented those arguments didn't know what they were talking about

I have read Mapes' arguments. I think she does not understand the evidence. I suspect ideology is blinding her.

[conservative in nyc]

I just thought we were just Digital McCarthyites.

I guess Mapes thinks Thomas Paine and the Framers who anonymously wrote pamphlets were early day Klansmen. That evil Publius too. And don't get her started about those scurrilous writers Mark Twain and Voltaire.

BTW Which party's longest serving Senator was a Grand Kleagle in the KKK?

[Tarpon]

It was scary, especially to kids. The same type of crap was dealt out in school. I was a Texan and the 'gangs' used to come around wanting to know how your parents planned to vote -- You always answered they were Democrats.

Sad but true. Where do you think all those Confederate flags on statehouse rooftops came from? If the true history of the racist segregationist Democrat south was told, there would be a lot of shocked people.

[Great Caesars Ghost]

And if I close my eyes, click my heels and wish really hard my cat will sprout wings and turn into a flying unicorn and I can have mystical adventures like Harry Potter.

I like that. I'm going to use it, if you don't mind. I like expressions like this. I like "I wish a band of singing dwarves would stand at the foot of my bed and wake me up every morning with 'Hi ho, Hi ho, it's off to work we go...'.

[musical_airman]

Not to mention that no self respecting Airman of any rank, Officer or Enlisted would write an official memorandum using such conversational language.

[dirtboy]

After dealing with the typeface issues,

Ah, yes, we've heard all about her defense of the typeface issues. How it there WERE typewriters that could do superscript and proportional spacing back then.

Now, let's look at the PROBABILITY that the good Colonel actually USED one of such typewriters to write a simple, clunky personnel memo:

- Such typewriters were very expensive.

- Such typewriters were very difficult to set up and use.

- Such typewriters were typically used to produce near photo-ready copy, not routine memos.

- The Colonel was not a very good typist.

Therefore, Mapes would have us believe that he would use a very expensive, very difficult-to-use typewriter to write simplistic personnel memos that got filed away in his personal files.

In other words, no friggin' way. And if this reporter is stupid enough to be unable to figure that out, he's dumb enough to be, well, an MSM reporter.