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Buckingham seesaws on the stand [Dover trial 10/28/05]
York (PA) Daily Record ^ | 10/28/05 | MIKE ARGENTO

Posted on 10/28/2005 7:08:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor

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So here we have a self-professed Christian conservative, the head of the creationist school board currently being sued at Dover for trying to sneak creationism into the public school system, committing perjury multiple times on the stand and then blaming it on his drug addiction

This must be some definition of 'conservative' I'm not familiar with.

1 posted on 10/28/2005 7:08:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor; Junior; PatrickHenry

Which of you guys has the ping list? This is a must-read column!


2 posted on 10/28/2005 7:08:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

Seems ironic to have a really really really stupid person promoting intelligent design.


3 posted on 10/28/2005 7:16:12 AM PDT by Redbob
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Seems ironic to have a really really really stupid person promoting intelligent design.

You work with what you have.

4 posted on 10/28/2005 7:17:01 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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All I can say is "WOW!"

This simply substantiates many of my previous rants about how creationists/IDer's tend to lie, I mean misspeak, about creationsism, ID and science in general. Based on testimony and evidence in this trial, ID is an attempt to inject religion into science classes and the attempts to cover it up are miserable failures.

5 posted on 10/28/2005 7:20:34 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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6 posted on 10/28/2005 7:23:55 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

How sad! Poor guy. Of course, he should never have been elected to the school board, but that's how school board elections go. We rarely know much about the candidates.

Perhaps this will change in Dover at the upcoming election. Perhaps the community will do better.

Perhaps this gentleman will learn his own limitations, as well.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 7:27:17 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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Sick, really sick.

And intelligent people are forced to deal with a clown like this.


8 posted on 10/28/2005 7:31:45 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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Even Vill Clinton couldn't have wiggled his way out of this one.

Maybe Rand was right and we should all go on strike.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 7:35:42 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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I think the only one who's going to come out of this looking better than when it all started may be Mike Argento. Wouldn't surprise me if he parlayed this exposure into a much bigger gig than the York Daily Record, and deservedly so.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 7:35:44 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (g_r)
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Even Vill could be Evil, but we all know it's just plain Bill.


11 posted on 10/28/2005 7:38:46 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Nice post. :-) WOWOWOWOW!


12 posted on 10/28/2005 7:39:08 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: furball4paws

Yes. And, yet, we will see people come onto this thread and defend this liar and what he's lying about. We will have people coming here and pasting nonsense from some of the creationist sites into their messages.

It is a crying shame that the creationist side of this issue feels that it is OK to say untrue things in their attempt to push a scientific theory out of the schools. A shame.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 7:39:22 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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It's the pills talking, apparently. At least in the case of this clown, anyhow.


14 posted on 10/28/2005 7:43:03 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (g_r)
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And intelligent people are forced to deal with a clown like this.

However, anyone who's been on a crevo thread or two would know to expect something like this had to be going on there.

15 posted on 10/28/2005 7:43:22 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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I've seen it called "Lying for God" on some of these threads and inside, I've always objected. That seems sacrilegious to me. But I might have to change my mind.
16 posted on 10/28/2005 7:44:15 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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It would seem to me if you're going to make a test case of something, you'd choose your venue very carefully.

Maybe that's why DI pulled out. Could it be even they were appalled?


17 posted on 10/28/2005 7:46:59 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: Junior

Thanks for the ping!


18 posted on 10/28/2005 7:48:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: furball4paws

I would think that anyone who lies intentionally about these issues cannot possibly really believe in Christianity. If they did, they would have to speak truthfully. I mean, that's in the basic 10 rules.

It's something for good Christians to think about. If someone is telling you something that you know not to be true, or if it is demonstrated that the person is deliberately lying, then it might be worthwhile questioning which side they're on.

I have no problem with those who take Genesis as the literal truth. That's a matter of religious faith. I have a problem when people lie about things to try to get their religious beliefs taught as science in the public schools.


19 posted on 10/28/2005 7:48:57 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: furball4paws

That particular phraseology has proven...touchy, in the past. I'm tolerably certain it contributed to the downfall of jlogajan, who rather regularly deployed it ;)


20 posted on 10/28/2005 7:49:10 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (g_r)
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