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Woodward: Only Minimal Damage from Plame's Outing
Larry King Live ^ | October 27, 2005 | Larry King Live

Posted on 10/27/2005 8:11:22 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

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To: Drammach

According to the investigative reporting coming out of La Repubblica in Italy:

"In brief, between 1999 and 2000 the French realize that someone is working abandoned mines to generate a brisk clandestine trade in uranium. Who is purchasing the smuggled uranium? The French are looking for an answer and Rocco Martino senses an opportunity."

So the French believe smuggled uranium is making its way out of Niger. Yet Wilson presumptuously announces in his NYT op-ed that, based solely on his ridiculously limited investigation which involved only having conversations with has-been officials and businessmen, that there is no way uranium has been sold out of Niger.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1510232/posts?page=49#49


61 posted on 10/27/2005 10:05:14 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: popdonnelly
Larry Johnson is a *umb*ss ROYALE. Mr. "Brilliant", who wrote the article in July 2001 claiming that the United States shouldn't worry about a terrorist attack, that we were just paranoid about it. No thanks, I don't think I will take his word for anything.
62 posted on 10/27/2005 10:05:31 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: StarFan
It was a great moment. Isikoff covered for Dodd by saying there wasn't a formal report but rather an interpretation by the CIA of what Wilson reported.

Which is NEVER done according to Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGeniva! Joe Wilson didn't have to sign a confidentiality agreement either which they also said was NEVER done!

63 posted on 10/27/2005 10:08:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Yes..

A good deal of that clandestine uranium trade went to places like Libya, Iran, N.Korea..

Libya, in addition to turning over it's Iraqi scientists, turned over more than a million units of yellowcake to the allied forces..
( I said "units" 'cause I can't remember if it was pounds or tons.. It was close to 1.5 million at any rate.. )

64 posted on 10/27/2005 10:15:48 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: kcvl

Well that explains why he he wasn't restricted from writing his OP ED piece.


65 posted on 10/27/2005 10:17:32 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: PhilipFreneau

Lindsey gave credibility to the politics of filibuster with his part in the Gang of 7's deal, and is now attempting to justify filibusters again, based on whatever his definition of "extreme" is.

When did ol' Lindsey release that statement?

He's setting himself up to reject the *extremism* in the next nominee as a reason for not allowing 100 Senators to debate and vote on whether the next nominee is *too extreme*.

And Teddy Kennedy whined about Miers not getting an up or down vote today.

Politics has made Graham Kennedy's bedfellow. Conservatives should never forget it.


66 posted on 10/27/2005 10:20:33 PM PDT by Kryptonite (McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine, Chafee - put them in your sights)
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To: StarFan

Which means that the "information" that he was "collecting" was meant to smear President Bush and not for the purpose of the CIA to find the truth!


I still say the REAL STORY is who signed off on Joe Wilson's "mission" and why?! We need congressional hearings to find out what was going on by a bunch of disgruntled CIA officials and FORMER CIA operatives with close ties to Valerie "Flame" Plame and Joe Wilson. Are you listening Larry Johnson?!!!


67 posted on 10/27/2005 10:22:07 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
"Whatever one may say of Bob Woodward, he has excellent sources."

There is an unwritten rule in the WH that gives special privlage to past and proven writers.

68 posted on 10/27/2005 10:30:49 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Love $5 Pitchers)
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To: kcvl

When I read that Fitz may empanel a new GJ, I posted that perhaps he had members of the CIA in his crosshairs. The more I read, the more I feel my instincts aren't all that far fetched, especially hearing there may be some surprises tomorrow. What say you?


69 posted on 10/27/2005 10:30:51 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan
I sure hope you are right! That has been my theory all along but, of course, I'm never right about much of anything when it comes to politics. lol!

"Bill Clinton will never be elected President." "Bill Clinton will never be elected a second time."

0-2 isn't very good, IMO. lol!

70 posted on 10/27/2005 10:35:46 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

What does this mean?

"GRAHAM: I don't know who's involved or what they will be charged with, but if it's a technical violation of the espionage act, then the culture of this town has changed. I hope it's not that. "


71 posted on 10/27/2005 10:36:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

technical legal requirements for violation of the Espionage Act


Title 18 United States Code section 794, subsection (b) prohibits anyone "in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy [from publishing] any information with respect to the movement, numbers, or disposition of any of the Armed Forces ... of the United States ... or supposed plans or conduct of any ... military operations ... or any other information relating to the public defense, which might be useful to the enemy ... [this crime is punishable] by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life."

Subsection (a) of that statute prohibits anyone "with ... reason to believe that it is to be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of a foreign nation, communicates ... to any representative, officer, agent, employee, subject or citizen thereof, either directly or indirectly, any information relating to the national defense, shall be punished by death or by imprisonment for any term of years or for life."


72 posted on 10/27/2005 10:42:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
b) prohibits anyone "in time of war, with intent that the same shall be communicated to the enemy [from publishing] any information with respect to the movement

Does that mean Whorealdo's drawing our location in the sand are grounds to imprison the blowhard, LOL.

73 posted on 10/27/2005 10:48:51 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Howlin

The Washington Times' Wes Pruden

Ay, as we Robert Burns fans are wont to say, there's the rub. There may not be one. So Mr. Fitzgerald has to invent one. Perhaps a violation of an obscure clause in the Espionage Act of 1917, enacted in the frenzy of the war to end all wars. It's not like Messrs. Rove and Libby have given information to the Krauts about the disposition of troops at Chateau Thierry, or along a salient of the allied line in the Argonne Forest, or have been conducting secret talks with the kaiser (though you never know), but a savvy D.A. knows how to fit a defendant to a 1917 crime when he can't fit a 1917 crime to the defendant.


74 posted on 10/27/2005 10:49:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin

The Espionage Act was passed by Congress in 1917 after the United States entered the First World War. It prescribed a $10,000 fine and 20 years' imprisonment for interfering with the recruiting of troops or the disclosure of information dealing with national defence. Additional penalties were included for the refusal to perform military duty. Over the next few months around 900 went to prison under the Espionage Act.

Criticised as unconstitutional, the act resulted in the imprisonment of many of the anti-war movement. This included the arrest of left-wing political figures such as Eugene V. Debs, Bill Haywood, Philip Randolph, Victor Berger, John Reed, Max Eastman, and Emma Goldman. Debs was sentenced to ten years for a speech in Canton, Ohio, on 16th June, 1918, attacking the Espionage Act.

On 23rd August six members of the Frayhayt, a group of Jewish anarchists based in New York were arrested. Charged under the Espionage Act, the group were accused of publishing articles in the Der Shturm that undermined the American war effort. This included criticizing the United States government for invading Russia after the Bolshevik government signed the Brest-Litovsk Treaty.


75 posted on 10/27/2005 10:50:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Howlin
the culture of this town has changed

The "culture of the town" changed when the Clintons rode into town. It's not going to change again until they ride out.

76 posted on 10/27/2005 10:52:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I read the whole article. This sounds like it was one of Larry's better shows. Thanks for bringing the transcript here.

Wolf


77 posted on 10/28/2005 1:11:41 AM PDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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To: kcvl
The "culture of the town" changed when the Clinton's rode into town. It's not going to change again until they ride out.

Bingo! That statement is right on.

To understand this statement, it is important to remember that Hillary Clinton's Wellesley College thesis was on a man by the name of Saul Alinsky.

Saul Alinsky, author of Reveille for Radicals, encouraged controversy and conflict, often to the dismay of middle-class activists who otherwise would sponsor his activism.

Alinsky is often credited with laying the foundation for confrontational political tactics that dominated the 1960s. He was a ferocious critic of mainstream liberalism and a champion of radical propaganda tactics and propaganda techniques. Alinsky encouraged deception in organizational strategy.

The above tactics were regularly practiced inside the Clinton's White House and Hillary was the principle practitioner.
78 posted on 10/28/2005 2:41:37 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Yeah, its no big deal because didn't they out themselves to their neighbors.


79 posted on 10/28/2005 2:43:31 AM PDT by rambo316 (America is a Republic and the U.S. Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government)
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To: vbmoneyspender
I'd have excellent sources too if I could speak to the dead.

LOL!

80 posted on 10/28/2005 2:48:21 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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