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FRUM: A SINKING NOMINATION
NRO ^ | October 11, 2005 | David Frum

Posted on 10/12/2005 3:30:33 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: andy58-in-nh

"For the Bush Administration to suggest that opposition to the present nominee is motivated by "sexism" is insulting, preposterous, and a sign of terrible political weakness."

An off the cuff remark made by Laura in response to a specific question does not represent the official position of the Bush Administration and to suggest that it does is insulting, preposterous, and a sign of terrible political dishonesty.


361 posted on 10/12/2005 4:15:27 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Les_Miserables
"If she is confirmed and if her court opinions turn out, for example, to confirm her to be a closet feminist or advocate of affirmative action, to chose only one of her likely predelictions the damage will not be repaired."

On the other hand, if, as I and the President think likely, Miers turns out to be a reliably conservative vote on the Supreme Court, conservatives who overreacted will have been shown to be fools of little faith.

So why don't sit back, watch the hearings and see what happens rather than going off half-cocked with some stupid idea like a petition calling on the President to withdraw her name?
362 posted on 10/12/2005 4:19:09 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: ovrtaxt
"Nobody opposes Miers because they think women are inferior to men."

I think it is quite likely, given the numbers of people in this country and wide range of opinion, that at least one and probably many more people are inclined to be against this nominee because she is a single woman who is not particularly attractive.
363 posted on 10/12/2005 4:21:57 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: alnick

"No, it can only damage the coalition of the perpetually offended on the far right, and that can only be good."

Yes, I find the perpetually offended on the far right to be almost as obnoxious as the perpetually offended on the left. A dose of common sense a little practicality would do wonders for both.


364 posted on 10/12/2005 4:24:32 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: sauropod

"And stop crapping all over the forum swiping at conservatives."

I am a conservative myself so I am not swiping at conservatives, I am swiping at those conservatives who think it is smart to shoot themselves in the foot.


365 posted on 10/12/2005 4:27:51 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ninian Dryhope
When did we elect Laura to anything?

I don't recall her name being across from George W. Bush's on Column A when I went into one of the prehistoric voting machines they have in my city in order to cast my vote for POTUS.

I'm having trouble seeing how a First Lady fits into major, consequential policy decisions undertaken by the White House.

Please elucidate.

366 posted on 10/12/2005 4:28:29 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Rass has him at 48%. You believe CBS if you wish!"

The remark about being a 37% president was in quotes because it was a quote from the poster to whom I was replying. I think the President is a 55% President, but that is just my opinion, which I hold more highly than CBS.
367 posted on 10/12/2005 4:30:58 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: NittanyLion
"She might've said that she doubts sexism is involved, it's just that good people can disagree (but that she's confident the confirmation hearing will prove Miers' worth)."

Quite true, and if she had said what you suggested instead of what she said, she would have been a lot closer to the mark, I agree. Nevertheless, Laura has a right to her own opinion and does not speak for the administration.
368 posted on 10/12/2005 4:33:20 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ma3lst0rm
You make some excellent points and I agree wholeheartedly. I still think Frum went way overboard in his characterization of the minor incident. Laura is not a politician. She is a citizen who is entitled to her opinion.
369 posted on 10/12/2005 4:35:59 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ninian Dryhope
An off the cuff remark made by Laura in response to a specific question does not represent the official position of the Bush Administration and to suggest that it does is insulting, preposterous, and a sign of terrible political dishonesty.

I'm sorry to tell you this, but it was not merely an "off the cuff remark". The same charge was repeated - and amplified - by the Attorney General of the Untied States this morning on a national news program.

Please don't misunderstand me - from what I have heard, I think I would like Harriet Miers as a person. I think she deserves a fair hearing, and I hope she demonstrates a solid grasp of Constitutional issues and conservative principles. If so, I will support her. What I resent is the cheap, dishonest way in which legitimate questions about her have been framed. The President did not choose the most evidently qualified candidate. That is not an arguable point. Instead of admitting such, and explaining why Ms. Miers would nonetheless be an excellent Justice in spite of her lack of "credentials", the Administration went into a defensive posture, lobbing mortars at its own supporters.

Look, I've said it twice today on this forum, an I'll say it again: it's not about her. It's about him. Many Conservatives have serious doubts about George Bush's judgment on a range of issues, and this nomination just brought the issue to a head. His response has done nothing to alleviate those concerns. To the contrary - they have revealed a lack of candor.

That hurts. I worked for the guy. I've shaken his hand. (How many of you can say that?) I am disappointed that he has not kept some promises that I thought were vitally important, and I am doubly disappointed that he would allow this dispute to divide his own supporters and fill the opposition with new hope and undisguised glee.

370 posted on 10/12/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: oblomov

"And conservative support will be missing the remainder of his second term."

So you think some conservatives will sit on their hands, and cut off their nose to spite their face, perhaps leading to a disaster such as a pull out from Iraq before the job is done?

There are lots of issues that need work and we need to support the President where he is right and hold his feet to the fire where he is misguided, not sit in the corner and sulk like babies.


371 posted on 10/12/2005 4:40:43 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"withholding judgment" is a good idea at this point in time. Whey don't you try it?


372 posted on 10/12/2005 4:43:40 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Well I agree with you 100%! :-)

LLS


373 posted on 10/12/2005 4:55:37 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

In other words, 46% of the respondents did not immediately support the President's choice to fill the O'Connor vacancy.

Correct. That, you can say. But you can't say that the poll showed that 46% of conservative respondents were opposed to Miers.

I don't recall the #'s on Rob'ts but those are in the link I posted. He's a done deal so that part of the poll wasn't of personal interest.

376 posted on 10/12/2005 5:47:31 PM PDT by elli1
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
Rest assured, we won't.

Even if another vacancy on the Supreme Court opens up during the remainder of Bush's presidency, I can almost guarantee you that you'll never see a "fight," at least not over philosophical differences or political convictions.

377 posted on 10/12/2005 5:59:33 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

FUND????? Have you ever watched him on Fox? I never got the impression that he was a solid conservative. More of a Blue-Dog Democrat.


378 posted on 10/12/2005 6:02:40 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: LS

Granted, no one would ever confuse him for Paul Gigot-except perhaps, H. Ross Perot-but I don't think anyone can credibly question his commitment to conservative political principles or to the Republican Party, regardless of what you might think of him personally.


379 posted on 10/12/2005 6:07:31 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Maybe he's just bad on Fox, and maybe they need him to play the "moderate" next to Fred Barnes.


380 posted on 10/12/2005 6:14:22 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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