Posted on 10/12/2005 3:30:33 AM PDT by ejdrapes
>>>Slurring his supporters is nothing new...Those that want to protect the borders of the country from illegal invasion, drug runners and terrorists, Bush has branded vigilantes...His global plan is to eliminate the borders...<<<
The border issue alone could doom the GOP, not discounting the significance of CFR, massive spending, expansion of central control of education, and now this latest slap at his conservative base? It is almost as if Bush is trying to get Hillary elected. The Bush family certainly loves her husband.
And the JRB pick was under an ideal scenario.
I don't think anyone except the most wild-eyed optimists expected her to be nominated.
But to not choose McConnell, or Luttig, OR JONES, FOR GOODNESS SAKE, is just an insult.
There's no use sugarcoating it.
>>>So, please tell me what hope we conservatives have, given the realities of politics in this country, outside the GOP?<<<
What does the GOP have without the conservative base? And if the GOP is going to give away our wealth, our culture, and our country, what difference does it make who we support?
Yep. Build a campaign on McCain's failures. Band of 14 to prevent Constructionist judges, his pro abortion positions, CFR, and last but not least in Arizona, immigration control. Align the Republican challenger as closely as possible with the positions of the Democratic Governor and spend a bunch of GOP money. It would help if the national GOP would not fund McCain but you can bet that will not happen.
Yes, I'm sure Mr. Frum knows full well about those "resignations".
>>>And which is why, we pray, and deeply, for Supreme Court Justices who understand that ALL FAITHS are relevant and important. That tho our foundations determine that no state sponsored religion is to grab a foothold, all religions are important and provide a moral and cultural rock for our nation.<<<
You are ignorant of the original intent of our founding fathers with regard to 'state sponsored religion', and to the utter foolishness of treating all religions as equally important. I would recommed Joseph Story's 'Commentaries on the Constitution' if you wish to understand the origional intent of the framers. Justice Story's commentaries were routinely cited in constitutional arguments to justify Christianity in our society, until the ACLU corrupted the judicial process and the minds of many Americans. See:
http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/story/
And what a great decision that was...your example was intended to support sexism in the picking of SCOTUS judges??
It's a glorified country club that's politically and culturally impotent.
It's as simple as that.
We hold the balance of power, now we just need to learn how to wield it.
I cast my ballot for a new set of pundits.
You may be quite plain but you WERE NOT plain with your post.
You said you smelled a rat or something in more than one way when I posted to you about being out at the Heinz "farm". You never explained your innuendo.
That is all.
Public servants that stand up to illegal aliens-and the methods they and their enablers use to extort money from honest, industrious American citizens-are rewarded with the support of Hispanic voters, as was the case with Pete Wilson, quite possibly the greatest governor of California in the 20th century.
With these "sexism" charges against Miers pick opponents, George and Laura have morphed into a Republican version of Bill and Hillary.
Since you want to talk about IN politics...
The GOP leadership in Indiana has wasted many opportunities, IMO. They put most of their energy and money into winning the gubernatorial race (which Republican Mitch Daniels won handily), ignoring the US Senatorial (which DLC-lib Bayh won) and the 7th district Congressional race (lefty Julia Carson won). These races were winnable, yet in both cases we had poor GOP candidates. Even worse, as if that were not enough to assure defeat, neither GOP candidate got a dime from the state or local party, and got no assistance from the well-run Daniels campaign.
I did volunteer and contribute money to try to secure a different outcome. But, leadership matters, as does the essential management function of efficient resource allocation. I don't belong to the inner GOP circle, and have no influence over these decisions. Given my (politically prominent Democratic) family history, I would NEVER be trusted in such a position, despite my lifelong hardcore conservative orientation. Even my nugatory volunteer activities were viewed with suspicion and distrust. I saw incompetent campaigns (in one, the GOP candidate burned a copy of the local paper in effigy in front of the news building when they endorsed his opponent), lacking even the most basic political instinct or management skill, and was powerless to "help" except in an inconsequential, functionary capacity (and also though my generous financial succor, natch).
So, rather than "sitting on my ass", I've wandered around a bit, and become disenchanted through a lifetime of political involvement. Anyway, I prefer to type standing.
I do not insist on ideological purity, but if neither party is aligned with me on basic principles, then I don't have a stake in what is simply a power struggle between two interest groups.
I'd be willing to listen if anybody had one reason to support Miers other than trust Bush. I dunno, maybe he's looked into her soul ala Putin, but so far I haven't seen any facts to support that position, just that I should trust Bush.
Hey, I'm a conservative, I don't' trust any pol all the time.
I sure didn't think very highly of those pukes that took up for Clinton regardless of what he did. I ain't one of those, I put my country and what I think is best for it above any politician.
Sigh, I guess I'm stuck in the 90's when the republicans actually had a conservative agenda; the contract with American, defunding the Dept. of Ed. and NEA. Smaller governments, more local control, term limits, ending welfare, ya know, wild crazy stuff that Bush won't touch.
Instead we get the biggest increase in the size of goobermint in the history of the country. Expanded funding for the Dept. of Ed and NEA, CRF, a PC war of nation building with no exit strategy (remember those hits of the 90s?), a pig in a poke for the SCOTUS, porous borders and nary a whiff of SS reform, private accounts and getting rid of the NEA (remember those promises?). And while we're at it how about a veto every once in a while?
If conservative Bush supporters can justify all that bring it on, I'll listen again but I've already tried and, as a conservative, I can't and I'm not willing to have the republican party treat me like the dims treat blacks thinking that "where else are they going to go"? And don't give me that "oh, so you're voting for Hillary" stuff. No, I'm not voting for Hillary but so far it looks like both republicans and democrats want to take the country to socialist hell, one just wants to get there 10 mph faster.
I'm not going to help either one. I love this country far too much to be a willing accomplice when I think anybody is doing something to send it to the trash heap. And that doesn't include shutting up.
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