Posted on 10/10/2005 8:55:12 AM PDT by Warhammer
Well, if you didn't actually contribute thousands of dollars to the DNC and Al Gore, if you are younger than 43 years old and your conversion doesn't correspond with a power grabbing opportunity...you are on more solid conservative ground than Miss Miers.
"you have proven yourself to be an ideologue, just like some of the pundits you list. I support Miers because I support Bush."
Then the difference between us seems to be Reasoning vs. Conditioning. Yes, I am a conservative, not a blind follower, and I think that's a good thing, and much stronger than "I support Miers becuase I support Bush".
That being said.... I think at some point the president and whoever he wanted to nominate needed to sit down in a closed room with the dems leadership and say this "if you personal attack this nominee, we will destroy you personally... even if it takes us 20 years". And this nominee if confirmed promises if you personal attack, to make your life and the life of your constitutents miserable, and we feel like as a judge with the swing vote, this nominee can do just that.
"You need to read the forum. It appears that the "rank and file" conservatives think you guys are elitists and just plain wrong about Harriett Miers."
More opinions eh? When there are no facts on your side, just TRUST ME, then opinions are your best friend. Remind me again how many FR members who have voted in the poll believe as you do about Miers?
"The real GOP isn't anywhere near as whacked as this place is."
Irony is thy name...
Did I say it was the only reason?
*bump*
I don't like this nomination at all, but the label "hate Mier-monger" is inflammatory misrepresentation.
"The real GOP isn't anywhere near as whacked as this place is"
The real GOP is a vanilla wafer, hiding inside a generic box hidden inside a surplus saltine cracker store. It means nothing and stands for less.
In this case, it's not the Democrats; it's the Patsies.
The other thing that is true.. is that the WH supported some of these RINO's during their primary elections.
Blasphemy! Ban his columns from FR! Traitor! Inside the beltway elitist!
Most of the arguments in defense of the Miers selection would apply to any shopping cart pushing bag lady that Bush could have nominated.
"Stealth" is right. According to Jonah Goldberg on NRO Corner today, "Apparently she hasn't done very much judge vetting and prepping after all." Add that to the growing list, "She's pro-life," "She's evangelical," "She's conservative," of representations to the "base" that just aren't holding water on close examination. Getting the feeling you're being LIED to about this nomination? I sure am.
I agree... you could have brought the patsies into the meeting to. But you know... the WH supported some of these patsies in their primaries.
Since you admitted voting GOP in 2002 and 2004, and Gore in 2000, you obviously didn't mention 1992 and 1996, which, I'm sure, means we can assume you voted for Clinton.
Now, if you've never supported liberal causes, the question must be asked: why?
She has been the president's personal attorney. He either picked her for that because she's a real good attorney, or because she thinks like he does.
I noted that feeling a few days ago. This nomination has negative ramifications that go deep - even if Harriet Miers judicial philosophy is to the right of mine and she is intellectually superior to Thomas and Scalia combined.
Not only does this nomination show weakness, it creates additional weakness. Loss of trust in the president will occur in some fraction of the voters who tend to support the GOP and the President's initiatives.
"you obviously didn't mention 1992 and 1996, which, I'm sure, means we can assume you voted for Clinton."
Since I state in my profile that my FIRST vote was for Gore, it's safe to assume that I did not vote in 1992 or 96 (was too young).
"Now, if you've never supported liberal causes, the question must be asked: why?"
Because I was never a liberal (unlike Miers). I voted Democrat just cuz that's how I grew up and I liked Lieberman alot. I realized I was a conservative during college.
The real GOP wins elections, something most of you pitchforkers can't say.
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