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Misunderestimating The Furor Over Hurricane Harriet
GOPUSA ^ | October 10, 2005 | Chuck Muth

Posted on 10/10/2005 8:55:12 AM PDT by Warhammer

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To: Map Kernow
Kitty Kelley notes how this president has sealed off from the public decades of presidential data that are vitally important to making democracy work

So, now, you're dragging Andrew Sullivan and Kitty Kelly out as proof that the Miers nomination is bad?

Kitty Kelly was laughed off the TODAY show when discussing her book about Bush, and Andrew Sullivan declared,not long ago, that he hated Bush's guts.

Desparation, thy name is Map.

41 posted on 10/10/2005 9:31:59 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
Well, pard, you have absolutely no credibility as a short-timer

This is so typical of your off point venom. This is not an argument for or against anything.

42 posted on 10/10/2005 9:32:42 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: sinkspur

"She was supporting conservative causes when you were pulling the lever for Billy Boy."

That's nonsense. I never voted for Clinton. Read my profile again. Furthermore, Miers has supported liberal causes (which I never did), and still seems unclear in her ideology (which i'm not).


43 posted on 10/10/2005 9:33:27 AM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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To: flashbunny
1. You don't support the president.
2. You're trying to undermine the party
3. You're an elitist
4. You're a sexist.
5. You're hurting the war effort.

You forget #6. You are anti-Evangecal Christian bigot. That seems to be gaining popularity.

44 posted on 10/10/2005 9:34:51 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: sinkspur
You need to read the forum. It appears that the "rank and file" conservatives think you guys are elitists and just plain wrong about Harriett Miers.

So what do we get when she's confirmed, and casts her first liberal vote? $100? Free hits? Do we get to call those "rank and filers" nincompoops? Sadly, they'll all be on FR saying, "Let's not play the blame game--let's not bicker, about 'oo killed 'oo!"

45 posted on 10/10/2005 9:34:59 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: sinkspur

All I've seen from you are ad-hominem attacks. You haven't given a single logical argument in favor of the Miers nomination. Since ad-hominem is all you have... give me your best attack on each of the following anti-Miers nom. people:

Mark Steyn, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, the entire editorial board of National Review, George Will, Mark Levin, Charles Krauthammer, David Frum, numerous conservative legal scholars, Phylis Schlafly, John Fund, PoliPundit, etc...


46 posted on 10/10/2005 9:35:14 AM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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To: Howlin
-"Well, according to what's been posted on here, Harriet Miers is suspect because she was still donating to the DNC in 1988."

Hardly the 'only' reason why she is "suspect". Try demonstrating with some FACTS on why she should NOT be suspect!

47 posted on 10/10/2005 9:35:51 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: Betaille
Furthermore, Miers has supported liberal causes (which I never did),

Voting for Al Gore was support for a conservative cause?

48 posted on 10/10/2005 9:36:20 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
Kitty Kelly was laughed off the TODAY show when discussing her book about Bush, and Andrew Sullivan declared,not long ago, that he hated Bush's guts.

Trying for an award as the top smear artist on FR? Kelley's article in the Times concerned Executive Order 13233, under which a former president's private papers can be released only with the approval of both that former president (or his heirs) and the current one---potentially such papers could be kept secret in perpetuity. Are you saying there is no such Order, that Bush didn't sign it, or that it doesn't restrict release of presidential papers the way she says it did?

We'll see who gets desperate, 'spur, sooner than you think.

49 posted on 10/10/2005 9:36:26 AM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Itzlzha

hahaha....Can't have debate!


50 posted on 10/10/2005 9:36:46 AM PDT by dakine
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To: flashbunny
LOL. That's a funny graphic.

Have you seen this informal poll? -> http://rightwingnews.com/

The GOP leadership is in denial. It's angry with the very people that want it to succeed.

51 posted on 10/10/2005 9:36:52 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Betaille
I think Miers will probably work out okay. She'll be more to the right than O'conner. Not as far right as I would have liked, but it could have been worse.

I don't give the president the pass on the theory that he nominated Miers because of the weak Senate. He should have nominated the best conservative judge for the job and let the chips fall where they may.

I really think that we're about 2 more election cycles from having a viable 3rd party. Unfortunately that 3rd party is going to be moderates who band together from both sides of the isle. The Mccaniac types.

52 posted on 10/10/2005 9:36:53 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: Map Kernow

No, I meant exactly what I said. I said, and meant, THEY don't care.


53 posted on 10/10/2005 9:38:44 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: flashbunny
only 30.1% are saying "we trust the president".

You need to look again; it's 34.0, plus the 33.3% who won't dive off the shallow end with you.

54 posted on 10/10/2005 9:38:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Warhammer
George W is not the Pope. He is not infallible. He made a mistake. But it's a mistake which can and should be rectified. The nation need not settle for second or third best with this lifetime appointment. President Bush should take a "mulligan," withdraw this nomination and appoint someone such as Judge Janice Rogers Brown instead. Absent that, Ms. Miers should take herself out of the game - for the good of the conservative movement and for the good of the nation.

I love Chuck Muth. I've been getting his newsletter for years.

55 posted on 10/10/2005 9:39:22 AM PDT by mosquitobite (What we permit; we promote. ~ Mark Sanford for President!)
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To: sinkspur

"Voting for Al Gore was support for a conservative cause?"

I'm not going to spend all day dealing with your ad-hominem attacks. All you've given in support for Miers is attacks on those who criticize the nomination. I told you.. just get it all off of your chest now. Tell me bad things about:

“Mark Steyn, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, the entire editorial board of National Review, George Will, Mark Levin, Charles Krauthammer, David Frum, John Fund, Trent Lott, Sam Brownback, Phylis Schlafly, etc...


56 posted on 10/10/2005 9:39:58 AM PDT by Betaille ("Ms. Miers's record is one of supporting a conservative position and then abandoning it." -John Fund)
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To: Betaille
What a ridiculous ad-hominem attack.

Give them a break. How many times can they post, 'trust President Bush, he knows what he is doing'?

57 posted on 10/10/2005 9:40:24 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Betaille
Hey, sonny, you have proven yourself to be an ideologue, just like some of the pundits you list.

I support Miers because I support Bush. That's a logical argument, since Bush has NEVER nominated a liberal or non-constructionist judge.

You don't like it, because Bush didn't nominate your guy or gal.

You also don't seem to want to wait for any hearings, unless you've changed your stripes again over the last 48 hours.

Wait for the hearings and cool your jets. Your're way too young to be so obstinate.

58 posted on 10/10/2005 9:40:48 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: sinkspur
Free Republic is representative only of Free Republic.

Precisely. The real GOP isn't anywhere near as whacked as this place is.

59 posted on 10/10/2005 9:40:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
I think Thomas Sowell supports her, somewhat. But the list is still long.

Does this mean that Harriet Miers will not be a good Supreme Court justice if she is confirmed? It is hard to imagine her being worse than Sandra Day O'Connor -- or even as bad.

The very fact that Harriet Miers is a member of an evangelical church suggests that she is not dying to be accepted by the beautiful people, and is unlikely to sell out the Constitution of the United States in order to be the toast of Georgetown cocktail parties or praised in the New York Times. Considering some of the turkeys that Republicans have put on the Supreme Court in the past, she could be a big improvement.

We don't know. But President Bush says he has known Harriet Miers long enough that he feels sure.

For the rest of us, she is a stealth nominee. Not since The Invisible Man has there been so much stealth.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/thomassowell/2005/10/07/159683.html


60 posted on 10/10/2005 9:41:03 AM PDT by Cboldt
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