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Economist ^ | 10/6/05 | Economist

Posted on 10/07/2005 4:59:16 AM PDT by shuckmaster

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To: longshadow
one wonders how he might feel about changing lanes without first signalling.... I'm pretty sure that isn't covered by scripture

The government prohibits that by law. Therefore I must abide by it.

741 posted on 10/12/2005 8:57:18 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: From many - one.

What are your views on abortion, partial birth abortion, government taxation, taxes for public schools which teach what you wouldn't want taught, removal of God from anything resembling a public place and euthanasia?


742 posted on 10/12/2005 9:05:03 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: longshadow
one wonders how he might feel about changing lanes without first signalling.

LOL. Depends if he drives in NY.

743 posted on 10/12/2005 9:07:05 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: eleni121
The posting has been removed. It exists in your memory...whatever that is.

My memory and the memory of about 15-20 other FReepers. Plus it has been documented for all to see.

Does your belief system allow you to lie and misrepresent facts so shamelessly or are you just making it up as you go along?

744 posted on 10/12/2005 9:10:36 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: taxesareforever
Non-responsive post.

Here's the original:

To: taxesareforever

You stated:"...What is right or wrong for one country is not necessarily right or wrong for another country. Just ask the people living in other countries...."

What are your views on burkhas, honor killings, infidel killings, suttee, footbinding?

************

Note that my questions refer to your statements about people living in other countries. Your response does not.

Since you do not think slavery is wrong, in which countries or under what circumstances do you think it is appropriate?

745 posted on 10/12/2005 10:02:14 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: taxesareforever
Of course I consider abortion wrong. If the our government sanctioned slavery I would say it was wrong because it would be against our Constitution.

So you don't consider slavery to be wrong, but if it were legalized it would be wrong because it would be against the Constitution. I feel like the AFLAC duck in the Yogi Berra commercial!

So, um, was slavery wrong before the 13th Amendment? What is right or wrong for one country is not necessarily right or wrong for another country. Just ask the people living in other countries.

Wow. Moral relativism too. How did you arrive at this? No wait, let me guess: The Old Testament has God constantly giving the Israelites special laws when he's not busy suspending other laws just for them, so moral relativism is the only Godly philosophy of ethics.

Am I close?

746 posted on 10/12/2005 10:03:23 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: From many - one.
Since you do not think slavery is wrong, in which countries or under what circumstances do you think it is appropriate?

Analyze my previous posts. My all-sufficient answers are in there. Your questions are typical of liberal spin. If you don't like an answer you demand more answers to questions in order to finally find something that fits your profile as out of line. Forget it. You are not getting it from me.

747 posted on 10/12/2005 11:08:45 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Doctor Stochastic; Junior; taxesareforever; jennyp
Whereas the Koran considers it good to free one's slaves.

Even though the only places slavery is still practiced are Muslim lands

748 posted on 10/12/2005 11:09:51 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: jennyp
Am I close?

Only in your dreams. Only in your dreams. Don't feel bad. Sometimes you even sound like the AFLAC duck.

749 posted on 10/12/2005 11:16:49 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
Only in your dreams. Only in your dreams.

OK, so why do you believe that

What is right or wrong for one country is not necessarily right or wrong for another country. Just ask the people living in other countries.

750 posted on 10/12/2005 11:23:22 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: jennyp

It is as if you have never heard the terms, "tradition", "culture" or "practice". Leave the Dark Ages, come out into the light. It is a real eyeopener.


751 posted on 10/12/2005 11:29:20 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
It is as if you have never heard the terms, "tradition", "culture" or "practice".

OK, so different cultures have different traditions, and so they consider different practices as morally acceptable or unacceptable. Fine.

But we're all human beings, regardless of the culture we live in. You don't consider slavery to be wrong. Is it only not-wrong in the US, or are there other cultures in which slavery is also not wrong in your view?

752 posted on 10/12/2005 11:43:41 PM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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To: jennyp
But we're all human beings, regardless of the culture we live in. You don't consider slavery to be wrong. Is it only not-wrong in the US, or are there other cultures in which slavery is also not wrong in your view?

I believe that I have sufficiently explained myself. You will not be satisfied until you can say, "ah ha" you said.." So forget it. You are not luring me into your liberal trap. By the way, answer my question. Is slavery a moral issue? If you say it is where do you derive what is moral and what isn't?

753 posted on 10/12/2005 11:59:22 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: taxesareforever
"I believe that I have sufficiently explained myself."

Yes, you are a pro-slavery, pro-government statist. You are also a moral relativist who doesn't believe there are moral absolutes.

"Is slavery a moral issue? If you say it is where do you derive what is moral and what isn't?"

My nature as a rational, human being.
754 posted on 10/13/2005 7:42:27 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: taxesareforever

"my all-sufficient answers"


Thank you for clarifying your view of yourself. Now I understand why you might think slavery is not wrong.

I'm more of a Luke 6:31 person myself.


755 posted on 10/13/2005 7:45:48 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: jennyp
Moral relativism too.

The creationists really are the pale riders of postmoderndeconstructionism.

756 posted on 10/13/2005 7:46:38 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: taxesareforever; jennyp

You are correct that you have "sufficiently explained" yourself, but not to your credit.


757 posted on 10/13/2005 7:49:38 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Virginia-American

Somehow the phrase "total management principles" seems out of place in their description of outlawing slavery.


758 posted on 10/13/2005 7:50:03 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Matthew 25:40 placemark


759 posted on 10/13/2005 8:50:30 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: taxesareforever
I believe that I have sufficiently explained myself. You will not be satisfied until you can say, "ah ha" you said.."

There's no "ah-ha" moment in the offing. You've already "sufficiently explained" yourself. See, for example, post 611. I'm just eager to understand why a supposed conservative would hold such a reprehensible view.

So forget it. You are not luring me into your liberal trap.

So opposition to slavery is now liberalism??? LOL!

By the way, answer my question. Is slavery a moral issue? If you say it is where do you derive what is moral and what isn't?

Of course slavery is a moral issue. Slavery is immoral because a human being cannot be owned. Humans have individual rights because it's a necessity for survival as humans. All humans have such rights, because if you apply rights to only some people and not others, then it's no longer a principle but instead just an ad-hoc, self-serving rationalization.

Let me ask you something: How would you feel if someone kidnapped you & sold you into slavery? Would you chalk it up to a stroke of bad luck, like getting hit by a hurricane, or would you recognize it as a crime - a violation of your inherent rights as a human being?

760 posted on 10/13/2005 10:45:01 AM PDT by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Art of Unix Programming by Raymond)
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