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Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VIII
www.freerepublic.com | September 24, 2005

Posted on 09/24/2005 9:58:36 AM PDT by Howlin

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To: cajungirl

Lanterns on the Levee.


521 posted on 09/24/2005 1:14:33 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: CFC__VRWC

The good news is that this may, repeat may, have been a rather benign surge event, a slow rise rather than a tidal wave...the people in the flooded regions are escaping their houses per reports, which defacto means that they have houses left to escape from....fingers crossed.


522 posted on 09/24/2005 1:15:24 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers
"they are more afraid of the reservoir filling and topping the dam"

Most of the lake over here have emergency spillways, if it gets too high the excess spills over that. Of course that option doesnt not allow them to control flow for those downstream..its sort of a last resort.

"LAKE LIVINGSTON. Lake Livingston is on the Trinity River six miles southwest of Livingston in Polk, San Jacinto, Trinity, and Walker counties (at 30°38' N, 95°01' W). Livingston Dam, owned by the City of Houston and the Trinity River Authority,qv is an earthfill dam with a concrete spillway and was designed by Brown and Root, Incorporated. The dam has a spillway crest elevation of ninety-nine feet above mean sea level. The reservoir has a normal capacity of 1,788,000 acre-feet, covers 82,600 acres, and drains an area of 16,616 square miles. Construction of the dam by Forrest and Cotton, Incorporated, began in 1966 and was completed in 1969. The reservoir is used for municipal, industrial, and irrigation purposes."

Earthfill dam..damn. I trust the completely cement ones more. Hopefully Rita wont stall upstream as predicted.

523 posted on 09/24/2005 1:15:38 PM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: RDTF
what life in the US has to offer outside the bayou.

Apparently, that is true.

On CNN, yesterday, they were reading emails from people evacuated to Houston from NO, and 5 out of 6 emails, said they will never go back to LA.

I think many have found jobs in other States. New Orleans has no opportunities. Past or future.

524 posted on 09/24/2005 1:15:41 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Blanko is from near Lafayette. Or New Iberia. Her ties are all over Acadiena.


525 posted on 09/24/2005 1:16:18 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: the Deejay

Nagin's base was not the poor blacks of NO. It was creoles and uptown white people. People don't know that.


526 posted on 09/24/2005 1:17:28 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: not_apathetic_anymore

not_apathetic_anymore wrote:
no kidding? I just google earthed those towns...that's almost the whole bottom of the LA boot.



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y138/jeffers_mz/Rita/BigPicture.jpg


527 posted on 09/24/2005 1:17:56 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: janetjanet998

Thanks, that makes sense. I have been puzzling for a while over that.

The sun is out here. Wind is blowing but we keep getting bright sunshine!


528 posted on 09/24/2005 1:18:39 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: jeffers
new heavy rainband moved over the river upstream of Lake Charles the past couple of hours it looked liked
i;m concerned about SE LA ..8-13+ inches fell upstream of many places and the surge is still being pushed towards the coast..water can;t drain out..look at total rainfall estimates HERE
529 posted on 09/24/2005 1:19:47 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: the Deejay
On CNN, yesterday, they were reading emails from people evacuated to Houston from NO, and 5 out of 6 emails, said they will never go back to LA.

I believe it. I was born in Texas, and we moved to NO when I was in 3rd grade because my Dad worked in the "Evil Oil Business". I never considered staying in LA. I left for Texas after HS and my parents left when Dad retired. FWIW - Tennessee is much like Texas, but I still miss Dallas a little.

530 posted on 09/24/2005 1:20:28 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: cajungirl

So many, many times in the last month I've wished we could loan Jeb to y'all.


531 posted on 09/24/2005 1:20:43 PM PDT by SE Mom
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Neches River flow at Town Bluff:
(already above NWS flood stage)
http://waterdata.usgs.gov/tx/nwis/uv?08040600
532 posted on 09/24/2005 1:21:05 PM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: handy

If you look where I live old maps have us about at sea level MHW. However I am nice and dry even during Charley. Why? General Development dredged and filled instead of a sea wall. The ground my house sits on is about 10 feet. My canal is 20 feet deep and leads to the Harbor which leads to the Gulf. Its great. That is how to rebuild NO.

I think it is completely unfair to NOLA people to let them think they can just go back and salvage or rebuild as it was. I can see a ton of finger pointing on this. It will be a mess.


533 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:04 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: jeffers
Surge estimates may have been conservative.

Indeed. Lake Charles is 20-25 miles from the coast. Yikes.

534 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:08 PM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: laz

Perhaps that's their motive, make everyone else look so bad, they move up the "most hated by Americans" ladder? :)


535 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:15 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: cajungirl
It was creoles and uptown white people.

I wouldn't bank on many of them going back, either.

536 posted on 09/24/2005 1:22:29 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: janetjanet998
Trinity River area gages, in downstream order:

Livingston Res nr Goodrich, TX
Trinity Rv nr Goodrich, TX
Trinity Rv at Romayor, TX
Trinity Rv at Liberty, TX
Trinity Rv nr Moss Bluff, TX
Trinity Rv at Wallisville, TX


Other area gages

The level in the reservoir is above the conservation storage level, but falling. They've probably already started releasing water.
537 posted on 09/24/2005 1:23:42 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: Howlin; All
Just one quick post from work.

This is the return plan, so if you can ping FReepers to this post to make the return smoother. Thanks.

Steve McCraw, Homeland Security Director for Texas announced this plan to return to East Texas.

West of IH 45 & North of IH 10 – Return on Sunday (Tomball, Woodlands, Waller, Katy, Brookshire, etc.)

West of State Hi-way 35 & South of IH 10 and inside Loop 610 – Return on Monday (Richmond, Stafford, Rosenberg, Perryland, Sugarland, etc)

East of 45 & North of IH 10 – Return on Tuesday (including Liberty and Chamber counties.)

Victoria and Corpus Christi have no staggered plan.

538 posted on 09/24/2005 1:23:50 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Note to the MSM - Don't stay stuck on STUPID!)
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To: jeffers

Grrrrr. hehe.


539 posted on 09/24/2005 1:23:52 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: the Deejay

The only people I hear about who want to go back are those who have businesses that they think will survive, those with a job and an unruined house, those who live uptown and students.

Even they are thinking twice. Some went back and saw their houses that had been sitting in water and the mold is growing up and onto the ceiling, the stench is terrible, all furniture and belongings ruined. They don't want to go back.

MD's and Lawyers are trying to get other practices. People who work for big companies with branches other places are transferring. There is talk that Tulane, which is now in Houston, will not come back!!


540 posted on 09/24/2005 1:24:00 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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