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Shuma the German Shepard service dog - MO gal will not return beloved pet
KCTV5. ^ | Sept. 23, 2005 | kctv

Posted on 09/24/2005 5:44:30 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

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To: wimpycat

sure hope so! although the video of the report on local T.V. said the gentleman/owner didn't want to create a legal entaglement...


61 posted on 09/24/2005 8:10:40 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I just hope the outcome of this is a good one....it is about doing the right thing....prayers offered


62 posted on 09/24/2005 8:12:43 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: kaylar

Not ot mention those dogs who intuitively devine their owner's health problems and help them with no training at all.

Many dogs naturally have become "seizure alert" dogs on their own as well as helpers for deaf owners.

I have a fair amount of hearing loss myself and my dogs alert to me to -everything- that goes on around here.
If very loud barking doesn't get me up and looking outside, they will come over and paw me and then run to wherever the source of the "alarming event" is.

They do not do the same for my husband who has very good hearing.


One of my hounds once literally saved my life by bouncing on top of me as I slept.
I have no sense of smell and I couldn't hear the smoke detectors going off.
The woodstove had had a downdraft problem and when I woke up, the smoke was so thick I couldn't even see the dog that was bouncing on me and pawing me.

I am a light sleeper so her intense efforts to awaken me probably meant that I already was "out" from the smoke and carbon monoxide.

But bless her heart, she didn't give up.

[and all the bouncing and pawing was -not- her nature, normally]

Dogs know who's "weak" and will naturally guard them however they can.


The souless harpy who has this man's dog is keeping it for spite.
The more flack she receives the more likely she will be to refuse to return it.

Bet on it.






63 posted on 09/24/2005 8:17:06 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Former Military Chick
It all comes down to this.

...she claims her family, in the last 3 weeks have become to attached to the dog.

Exodus 20:17 - Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

64 posted on 09/24/2005 8:24:40 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Former Military Chick

Ok, I'll be a bit contrary here.

This guy (the former dog owner) is an operator.

He's leveraging his disability to get back a dog he gave away (for whatever reason......he gave it away) hence the confusion over whether it was just a pet or a true service dog.

If he were better at pulling on peoples heartstrings (and more forward thinking), he'd have just hung out on the street with his dog saying he had no place to go because of the dog he loved. The press would be all over it. It's very likely he'd be in plush accomodations right now.

When you pull away the BS on both sides of this story, it is just a man-lost-dog story.

That said....just give the dude his dog back, sheesh.


65 posted on 09/24/2005 8:30:25 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Former Military Chick

Unfortunately, the law is on this witches side---he signed the dog over.


66 posted on 09/24/2005 8:34:02 AM PDT by Fawn (Try not--do or do not.)
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To: hombre_sincero

You are unbelievable.....


67 posted on 09/24/2005 8:37:07 AM PDT by Fawn (Try not--do or do not.)
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To: hombre_sincero

I see the Thorazine shipment was held up by Rita.


68 posted on 09/24/2005 8:43:32 AM PDT by najida (Once upon a a very long time ago, in a land far, far away.....It was still all Bush's fault.)
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To: Salamander
Not to mention those dogs who intuitively divine their owner's health problems and help them with no training at all. Many dogs naturally have become "seizure alert" dogs on their own as well as helpers for deaf owners......Dogs know who's "weak" and will naturally guard them however they can.

Very true.

The souless harpy who has this man's dog is keeping it for spite. The more flack she receives the more likely she will be to refuse to return it. Bet on it.

Sadly likely to turn out to be true.

Frankly, I'm with the freeper who wants to see the dog "stolen" and returned to the rightful owner...But maybe the pro bono lawyer, coupled with the bad publicity affecting the harpy's employer, will be successful. If not, then...perhaps...a good samaritan in KC might ...But let's hope lawful measures prevail. Given the whole "Katrina Victim" thing, I really an see a judge voiding the surrender document.

69 posted on 09/24/2005 8:46:20 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: Delta 21

Well, that's about as confusing an analysis as any MSM can do.

What's your conclusion? Should the current legal owner give up the dog?


70 posted on 09/24/2005 8:53:10 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Darnright
Well it sure sounded to me like you agreed with her in your earlier posts!
Maybe I just need more coffee or better glasses!
71 posted on 09/24/2005 8:53:13 AM PDT by Rose of Sharn (I get the best answers when i talk to myself!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Natural disasters bring out the very best of people. Unfortunately, the also bring out the worst.(ASSHOLES)
72 posted on 09/24/2005 8:53:33 AM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Former Military Chick
she claims her family, in the last 3 weeks have become to attached to the dog.

Hell of a way to raise your family. I hope she doesn't have too many kids. The less screwed up kids that society has to deal with when they are adults, the better.

73 posted on 09/24/2005 9:12:44 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kaylar

I'm no legal eagle but I'd swear I've heard of contracts being voided if they were signed under duress.

If that wasn't duress, I don't know what would be.

If they can take a kid away from its adoptive parents after they raised it for years when the "birth mother" pops back into the picture, what's the big problem with giving back a dog?


74 posted on 09/24/2005 9:25:43 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: mewzilla

I googled "Independence Animal Shelter" and it appears to be a city-owned facility. I would think that the city would have a great deal of leverage and responsibility over their employee's actions. For instance, did she pay the adoption fee for the dog or did she just take it as a "perk" of the job? Has she done this kind of thing in the past or is it a common practice? Why this dog?

I just can't believe with all the adopable dogs that go through an animal shelter that she has to have this particular dog that has a family already. What an incredibly bad decision on her part.


75 posted on 09/24/2005 9:27:43 AM PDT by LSAggie
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To: Former Military Chick

This is very cruel.


76 posted on 09/24/2005 9:28:22 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Salamander
Another thing : The witch is gonna claim that it would be cruel to take the dogs from her kids (after they've had him three, count 'em, THREE weeks) to return to the man who raised Shuma from a puppy. She's going to try to play the "it's for the children" card. But it says that the man turned over Shuma because he was frantic to find housing for his FAMILY. That means he has at least one child, since if it were jsut him and his wife, the reporters would've referred to a "married couple" but not a family. Surely a judge would rule that the feelings of the children who've known Shuma longest take precedence over the feelings of the Neville creature's children.

Probably the "flood the employer with nastygrams and a boycott" are the best alternatives here. Maybe the employer will lean on the BC.

77 posted on 09/24/2005 9:34:16 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: kaylar

Wish I lived near there.
I'd just round up a gang of buddies and go get the dog.....>:-)

[working "within the system" is too slow, sometimes]...:))


78 posted on 09/24/2005 9:38:10 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: najida

ROFL!


79 posted on 09/24/2005 9:38:54 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: LSAggie

She's an employee of the city? Working in a shelter? With access to, perhaps, thousands of dogs? The city needs to tell her to give the dog back or lose her job! She can take her pick of dogs who NEED homes and are unwanted. Actually, I'd tell her that and then fire her as soon as she returned the dog and signed papers releasing it--but then I'm vindictive and suspicious. Anyone who would do what she is doing can't be a person that is kind to animals because look how she treats people.


80 posted on 09/24/2005 9:39:59 AM PDT by pepperdog
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