Posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone
"McCain '08 is an MSM pipe dream."Ya got that part right... It's their dream.
We've got one now (which is 2005, by the way).
I think you are assuming a lot. How do you know that no Republican can beat Hillary Clinton except Guiliani and McCaine. I think Hilary can be beaten and will be beaten by so many Republicans. The country will not accept an ultra left wing liberal, phony, nasty, elitist like Hillary Clinton.
Some form of Rice/Allen ticket would get my vote.
As a former New Yorker, I take extreme exception to your saying that Giuliani is from "New England".
This Iowan like Barbour or Allen.
he doesn't interest me
"Some of us are trying to draft Mike Pence, a Reagan conservaive"
I would support Pence wholeheartedly.
One thing Rudy's got and that's the ability to say no to the Arab world (turned down the big fat check from the Saudi prince when he bashed the US and said "we don't need your money!)...The real fight is here in the US against the muslim infiltration of our country - someone needs to stand up to them and if Rudy is the man, then I'll vote for him. He won't stand idly by while America is pussied into allowing muslims to take over our country!
personally i'll take any president who is anti-immigration and pro-gun. and rudy doesn't match either of those.
McCain is only a a MSM wet dream when he is running against a conservative in the primary like Dubya, who they think can win. If McCain were to ever win the nomination, he would instantly become a mean-spirited Republican, where there was whitewash before, there would be new investigations into the Keating Five, his wife Cindy's addiction to pills, his first divorce, etc...
Dear harpu,
"UNFORTUNATELY...your options (and suggestions) for a GOP winner are very, very limited!"
I agree. That doesn't mean that I'm going to vote for someone for president who doesn't represent me and my views, especially those I hold most important.
I'd vote for Sen. Allen, even though he is far from being as pro-life as I would like. I'd vote for Sen. McCain, even though he is not as conservative as I would like (but he is, nonetheless, more conservative than Mr. Giuliani). I'd vote for Vice President Cheney in a heartbeat. But heartbeats may prevent him from running.
I'd vote for Rep. Pence, but I don't believe he has much of a chance this time around. He should serve a term or two as governor of his state. He's pretty young and would be very, very attractive in '12 and '16 as a three- or four-term Representative and two-term governor.
But I'm not going to vote for just anyone that the Republicans put on the ticket.
sitetest
Thanks!
The key thing is, only conservative Republicans can defeat democrats. We have seen it time and time again. I think Rudy was a great mayor of New York, but he is not conservative enough to be a Republican presidential candidate.
The MSM is still trying to have their influence choose the nominee.
Those 3 wouldn't get my vote,
but I would vote for Cheney.
I would take Rudy any day over him. I'm hoping George Allen starts showing more. Cheney would be great, but his health will preclude a run. The race doesn't really begin till next January....
And of course my personal choice would be Don Rumsfeld, but the age factor is a key with the Secretary.
It shows top name recognition - not Presidential viability/desirability
His name ID is currently 1% but all you got to do is get Iowa and then you are a household name.
Pence has not been here. Huckabee and Brownback and Tancredo all addressed a large group at the Polk Co. fundraiser Sat. night.
Brownback and Huckabee both gave great speeches.
Dear princess leah,
"One thing Rudy's got and that's the ability to say no to the Arab world (turned down the big fat check from the Saudi prince when he bashed the US and said "we don't need your money!)."
That's nice. To my mind, that qualifies him for any number of high positions: Secretary of Defense; Secretary of State; Secretary of Homeland Security; Ambassador to Saudi Arabia; Ambassador to the United Nations; Energy Policy Czar; US Senator from New York.
However, Mr. Giuliani is, in the main, a liberal. As others have pointed out, he is pro-abortion (including up to and including the infanticide that is partial-birth abortion), pro-gun control, pro-homosexual special rights, anti-immigration law enforcement, to name a few.
Heck, if we want to elect a Democrat, well, we don't have to call him a Republican.
I'd prefer a choice, not an echo.
sitetest
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