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Giuliani Leads 2008 Republican White House Hopefuls (Rasmussen Poll)
Angus Reid ^ | 9/21/05

Posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: areafiftyone

For all the hype, with me politically, he is DOA.


121 posted on 09/21/2005 8:43:56 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: trubluolyguy

Uh, you can vote third party even if you're not registered independent. What you CAN'T do if you register independent (at least in most states) is vote in the Republican Primary. You need to do your homework.


122 posted on 09/21/2005 8:46:05 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: Bar-Face
Too many Republicans that lean toward Libertarian or Conservative will not vote for either. They will vote third party and let the chips fall where they may.

The GOP will get what they deserve for not listening to the cries from their base. My vote is reserved for a true national security/border/immigration/fiscal/social Conservative, and that ain't McCain.

123 posted on 09/21/2005 8:56:42 AM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: SONbrad
Is that really true? Did he write that down somewhere?

I know he was divorced, and I know his first marriage was a disaster. But I cannot find ANY corroboration anywhere of that fact, given by Reagan himself.

If he did, I would be very disappointed. And yes, it would change my opinion of him. Would not change his accomplishments, though.

There is also a difference, IMO, between being a married man with a family and running around in secret, and being separated, intending to divorce, and seeing other people.

124 posted on 09/21/2005 8:56:58 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Cobra64

"And isn't he pro-choice? I don't think I would vote for him."


"And that is the only criteria to not vote for him?"




It's enough.


125 posted on 09/21/2005 8:59:41 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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To: areafiftyone

*smack*smack*smack*

Pull yourself together man! It isn't that bad. :)


126 posted on 09/21/2005 9:01:59 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

LOL Right now, I don't care who runs as long as we beat the Dems. I will support whomever the nominee is.


127 posted on 09/21/2005 9:06:09 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Oldhunk

"We can all vote for the conservative of our choice in the primaries, but anyone here who would stay home on election day if Giuliani were to prevail has his head firmly planted where the sun don't shine."




Every once in a while certain people need to be reminded that if you are going to kick conservatives in the crotch, we are not going to support you. Rudy vs Hitery? Where's the choice? Two liberals. One just happens to have a R next to his name.


128 posted on 09/21/2005 9:10:11 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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To: trubluolyguy

And if any female in your family or friends were raped and became pregnant, what position would you take?


129 posted on 09/21/2005 9:11:14 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1
I love Cheney's style best.

So do I.

In my mind's eye, I'd love to see a Cheney/Rummy ticket.

Unfortunately, Cheney won't run in '08.

130 posted on 09/21/2005 9:14:55 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64

Cobra, you argued that a few months ago and got stomped logically and emotionally. I thought you learned your lesson and I also made the assumption you changed your mind.


131 posted on 09/21/2005 9:16:22 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: Cobra64

"And if any female in your family or friends were raped and became pregnant, what position would you take?"



Rape, incest, Life of the Mother.


132 posted on 09/21/2005 9:20:05 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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To: areafiftyone

Say "Hello!" to President Hillary!. I've already had it with Bush for free spending, and his stance on immigration. Anybody to the left of him can forget it. Not even the threat of the Hildebeest could get me to vote for McCain or Guiliani.


133 posted on 09/21/2005 9:24:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: sitetest
I think I'd have to go third-party at that point.

There's always this guy:


134 posted on 09/21/2005 9:29:40 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("...there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda." - Thomas Kean, chairman, 9/11 Commission)
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To: Sabramerican
He is a practicing Catholic who entertained the Priesthood.

Maybe he was at one time, but from what I understand he is now a divorced and remarried "Catholic" (without an annulment). That is not a practicing Catholic.

Also, you cannot support an intrinsic evil like abortion and remain a Catholic in good standing.

So again, he has my prayers, but not my vote.

135 posted on 09/21/2005 9:41:49 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: T. Buzzard Trueblood

Dear T. Buzzard Trueblood,

LOL. Yes, there is alway Harry R.

However, we social conservatives learned something from Mr. Perot.

Certainly, the abandonment of many economic conservatives from President Bush, pere, for raising taxes, caused the election of Mr. Clinton, to our national harm.

Nonetheless, since that time, Republican candidates for the presidency have recognized that raising taxes is a "third rail" of Republican politics. Republicans who raise taxes can look forward to possible early retirement.

We social conservatives have learned the lesson, too.


sitetest


136 posted on 09/21/2005 9:51:20 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: trubluolyguy

That may be so, but we are far better off with a RINO in the presidency than a Hillary. For one thing, Rudy may not appoint another Scalia, but I don't think he would appoint another Ruth Bader Ginsburg either. Hillary sure would.

If it were not for RINOs, we would not have control of the Senate. You may like some conservative Democrats, but when it comes to organizing the Senate, they don't vote for our guys. Do you really think the conservative that may challenge Lincoln Chafee in the primary could really beat a D in Rhode Island?

We will never get everything we wish for, but winning beats standing on principle. As the old saying goes, you cut off your nose to spite your face.


137 posted on 09/21/2005 9:53:23 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: SONbrad

Uh, you can vote third party even if you're not registered independent. What you CAN'T do if you register independent (at least in most states) is vote in the Republican Primary. You need to do your homework.




I know this, I am mis-stated my point, and badly. I am basically saying if the Repubs nominate a liberal, to run against a liberal, search the third parties for a candidate you agree with. Rudy vs Hillary is not a choice. Liberal vs Liberal...I'll go third party or stay home and watch the chips fall.




138 posted on 09/21/2005 9:55:46 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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To: murphE

Considering that Abortion rights are the law of the land, if you are a Catholic, with that view, you are eliminating practicing Catholics from public office. Is that your intention?


139 posted on 09/21/2005 10:00:22 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Oldhunk

We will never get everything we wish for, but winning beats standing on principle. As the old saying goes, you cut off your nose to spite your face.





You go ahead and sell out your priciples to vote for a liberal. I won't.


140 posted on 09/21/2005 10:00:37 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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