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Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill
AP ^ | 9/7/5

Posted on 09/07/2005 6:06:36 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: doug from upland
"Gay marriage."

You shoulda made it bigger! I almost missed it behind all that bilious blubber!!! Like this:

GAY MARRIAGE!!!

221 posted on 09/07/2005 9:57:25 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
What this precludes is a backlash that would surely have carried the marriage iniative. Now it will be harder.
222 posted on 09/07/2005 9:57:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I still don't understand why we needed another marriage initiative when Prop 22 was just past! Was there a wording problem, or something?

So you're saying that even when Arnold is forced to do something right, it still turns out to be wrong? What's new???

223 posted on 09/07/2005 10:00:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: SmithL

Short term victory. Governor Angelides will sign the bill in 2007.


224 posted on 09/07/2005 10:01:57 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: SierraWasp

Yes, it should have been bigger.


225 posted on 09/07/2005 10:01:58 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: SierraWasp
I still don't understand why we needed another marriage initiative when Prop 22 was just past! Was there a wording problem, or something?

Prop. 22 allowed the left to construct gay marriage in everything but name. The new ballot initiative (supposedly) fixes that. My hope is that is axes gay adoptions, gay insemination, and gay child rearing in any form.

I could care less about survivor benefits, visitation rights, or the rest of that administrative crap; this is about who gets to raise children.

226 posted on 09/07/2005 10:03:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Yes! Because that's what real marriage is all about... CHILDREN!!! (And child rearing!)


227 posted on 09/07/2005 10:07:30 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

That makes sense.


228 posted on 09/07/2005 10:20:36 PM PDT by b9
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To: Carry_Okie; SierraWasp

Petitions are being circulated:

http://www.protectmarriage.com/docs/Official_ProtectMarriage_Petition_short.pdf

1145. (SA2005RF0077, Amdt. #2-NS)

Marriage. Elimination of Domestic Partnership Rights. Initiative Constitutional Amendment.
Summary Date: 07/25/05 Circulation Deadline: 12/22/05 Signatures Required: 598,105

Proponents: Larry Bowler, Ed Hernandez, and Randy Thomasson (916) 265-5643

Amends the California Constitution to provide that only marriage between one man and one woman is valid or recognized in California, whether contracted in this state or elsewhere. Voids and restricts registered domestic partner rights and obligations, for certain same-sex and heterosexual couples, in areas such as: ownership and transfer of property, inheritance, adoption, medical decisions, child custody and child support, health and death benefits, insurance benefits, hospital visitation, employment benefits, and recovery for wrongful death and other tort remedies. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: Unknown, but probably not significant, fiscal effect on state and local governments. The impact would depend in large part on future court interpretations.


229 posted on 09/07/2005 10:29:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp; Carry_Okie

Oops!  I messed that up.  The petition link goes with this measure, endorsed by Pete Knight's widow.

http://www.protectmarriage.com/docs/Official_ProtectMarriage_Petition_short.pdf

1146. (SA2005RF0082)

Marriage. Invalidation of Domestic Partnerships. Initiative Constitutional Amendment.
Summary Date: 07/27/05 Circulation Deadline: 12/27/05 Signatures Required: 598,105

Proponents: Gail Knight, Natalie R. Williams, Mark A. Jansson, and Philip W. Kell, c/o Andrew Pugno (916) 608-3065

Amends the California Constitution to provide that a marriage between a man and a woman is the only legal union that shall be valid or recognized in California. Amendment bars domestic partnerships from being valid or recognized as legal unions in California. Summary of estimate by Legislative Analyst and Director of Finance of fiscal impact on state and local governments: Unknown, but probably not significant, fiscal effect on state and local governments. The impact would depend in large part on future court interpretations.

 


231 posted on 09/07/2005 10:32:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: democratstomper
WE NEED A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT TO PROTECT MARRIAGE!

LOL. Your post is sandwiched between two alternatives that are in process.

232 posted on 09/07/2005 10:34:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SmithL

"We cannot have a system where the people vote and the Legislature derails that vote,"

Bingo!

Now it is about time.


234 posted on 09/07/2005 10:36:26 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: SmithL

Like to say that he took my advice but I wanted him to say this when the legislature first introduced the bill. Now he has to say it, after it passed this hurdle.


236 posted on 09/07/2005 10:38:35 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: SmithL

God Bless Arnold!


237 posted on 09/07/2005 10:40:27 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Pray for America like its future depended on it, because it does!)
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To: SmithL

Gay Marriage Has Been Terminated in California.


238 posted on 09/07/2005 10:41:00 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SmithL

RINO or not he wears the "R" well today.


239 posted on 09/07/2005 10:41:14 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (OUT OF ORDER)
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To: Howlin
Schwarzenegger says he will veto gay marriage bill

Just like I predicted among all the hand-wringers here. I feel vindicated.

240 posted on 09/07/2005 10:44:41 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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