BOSNIA: CROATS UP THEIR DEMANDS

AKI ^ | September 6, 2005

[bob808]

Better to attach the Croat and Serb areas of Bosnia to Croatia and Serbia respectively. The borders of Bosnia reflect provincial boundaries of the Hapsburg and Ottoman Empires, not demographic reality.

Correct and well said.

[zagor-te-nej]

If “Croat card” does not do the trick maybe this will help –some of the articles posted on this site!

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[zagor-te-nej]

He is MI-6 spy and failed English politician caught cheating on his wife. Several years ago he was employed by Karadzic to promote Serbian interests. Then he switched sides - I guess muslim paying more. For his services he even got cottage by the Jablanica lake and hunting lodge in central Bosnia. He said he is planning to sell cottage and bay mountain cabin.
In 2001 he was member of the board for the International Crisis Group. He was in the good company with likes of George Soros and Wesley Clark. Recently, they removed his name – I guess it was too obvious.

[zagor-te-nej]

You should not confuse religion with ethnicity. Catholic Encyclopedia is very clear:

Excluding some 30,000 Albanians living in the south-east, the Jews who emigrated in earlier times from Spain, a few Osmanli Turks, the merchants, officials. and Austrian troops, the rest of the population (about 98 per cent) belong to the southern Slavonic people, the Serbs.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02694a.htm

Andric was born in Roman-Catholic family but he considered himself a Serb for the most of his adult life. His work and his last will are very clear.

[RichInOC]

The Croats told the Serbs, "We've upped our demands."
The Serbs told the Croats, "Up yours."

[Verginius Rufus]

That is a very old article, from before WWI. They treat all the people who speak "Serbo-Croatian" in Bosnia as Serbs, but I don't think you would ever have found the Muslims of Bosnia or the Catholics of Bosnia identifying themselves as Serbs because Serbian identity is so closely associated with Orthodox Christianity.

In the early 20th century, both the Serbs and the Croats of Bosnia claimed the Muslims as part of their ethnic group--eventually the Tito regime created a new ethnic category for the Bosnian Muslims. In earlier times when the peasants were illiterate and nationalism had not spread to that area, a lot of Bosnians may not have identified themselves as Serbs or Croats but only by religion.

I knew that in his last 30 years Andric did not identify with the Bosnian Croats but had not heard that he called himself a Serb...there were a lot of people in Yugoslavia who avoided picking an ethnic group and just called themselves "Yugoslavs."

[zagor-te-nej]

Rest assured that Vatican knows ethnicity of people it is dealing with. And usual way Pope was dealing with “Bosnians” for more then millennium was crusade:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/9892/bhhisto.html

Historically Bosnian “Croats” and “Muslim” are Serbs. They know their ancestors yield, converted and accepted religion of their oppressors - Islam and Roman-Catholicism. That’s big part of why so many of them hate those who did not capitulate and stayed Orthodox so much. Their origin is Serbian - they are just not ready to accept that.
I am fine with that and I accept their decision. At same time I recognize the truth, the same truth that best of “Croats” and “Muslim” were aware of. Take for example Mehmed Selimovic one of the greatest 20th century novelists of Southeastern Europe.

I descend from a Muslim family, from Bosnia, and by nationality I am a Serb. I belong to Serbian literature, while the literature of Bosnia, to which I also belong, I consider only as my geographic literature center, and not a distinct literature of Serbo-Croatian language... I belong, so, to the same nation and literature of Vuk, Matavulj, Stevan Sremac, Borisav Stankovic, Petar Kocic, Ivo Andric, and my deepest kinship with them I don't need to prove
http://www.answers.com/topic/mesa-selimovic

Who the heck I am to correct one Selimovic, or Andric?

[zagor-te-nej]

Some historic facts on Serb Land of Bosnia

http://members.tripod.com/cafehome/serbdom-eng.htm

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/History/pre-wwOne/Bosnian-Serbs.html