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Shell's Ingenious Approach To Oil Shale Is Pretty Slick
Rocky Mountain News ^ | Saturday, September 3, 2005 | Linda Seebach

Posted on 09/03/2005 1:58:07 PM PDT by Mount Athos

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To: oceanagirl
It will indeed.

;^)

81 posted on 09/03/2005 4:58:14 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: JasonC

"Not a problem. They can have political power if we get cheap energy, and if we don't they can run checkout at WalMart. They will get the message."

All have the message. Have had for some thirty years. As for as cheap energy on a national scale. Energy sources and how they are used are only part of the equation. We shall always need petroleum based products, that are not obtainable from other sources. Such as lubricants, jet fuel, heating oil, natural gas for cooking/home heating etc., and the diverse fractions that come from petroleum oil for literally hundreds of thousands of end products, not to mentioned all the required derived chemicals used in so many processes.
We need oil, and I am not talking about plant derived oils such as corn, cotton seed, soybean etc.. They cannot be cracked to obtain the extremely short list I make mention of above. It is all a bit more complicated then many of us understand believe me.


82 posted on 09/03/2005 5:11:22 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: All
Re: Oil and Gas - LISTEN TO THIS - it's a classic!

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83 posted on 09/03/2005 5:38:06 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein)
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To: Enchante

We went from jungle to rain forest, swamp to wetland... What can "desert" be turned into? "Sun-surfeited biome" maybe?


84 posted on 09/03/2005 5:39:52 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
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To: oceanagirl

ping


85 posted on 09/03/2005 5:42:03 PM PDT by southland
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To: SAJ

Bookmarking


86 posted on 09/03/2005 6:23:26 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: JasonC
JasonC said: "But then, if [the Saudis] meet demand, the price shouldn't be $70 when the cost is $3."

The cost of producing Saudi oil is only $3 per barrel but the value of their as yet untapped reserves is more than that by quite a bit. That is why they can deliver oil at a profit.

The prospect of producing oil from shale in the US for $30 per barrel also explains why it is unlikely that world oil prices can remain as high as they are. How much shale oil will be produced if the world price of crude falls to $28? Practically none.

I believe that it is impossible for the US to reduce its dependence on foreign oil as long as the Saudis continue pumping.

87 posted on 09/03/2005 7:14:06 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: JasonC
Well, that's simple. Just kill the cows. There are farms in Penn Dutch country that grow lots and lots of corn, but they feed it all to the cows. Eat the cows and make plastic from the corn.

TS

88 posted on 09/03/2005 7:17:13 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (The previous post is as serious as you want it to be.)
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To: abbi_normal_2; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; AndreaZingg; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

List of Ping lists

89 posted on 09/03/2005 7:20:21 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Tanniker Smith
Tell Atkins. The trend in diet is the reverse, and people are willing to pay for food choices. Human beings aren't livestock, that one could engineer their diets for physical efficiency in engineering terms. We will need the food.
90 posted on 09/03/2005 7:24:15 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: Mount Athos

I'll say it too. Wow.


91 posted on 09/03/2005 7:25:19 PM PDT by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: freepatriot32

BTTT


92 posted on 09/03/2005 7:28:43 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: thestob

bump for later


93 posted on 09/03/2005 7:31:43 PM PDT by thestob (Vote or P. Diddy will kill you)
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To: Jackknife

Let the heathen Sa-uds pound sand, PIIINNGGGG


94 posted on 09/03/2005 7:36:59 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: SAJ

"As asked earlier, how do they prevent an enormous loss of liquid via seepage?"

I don't know. Sorry. I'm sure the pumping system is in place around the localized heating to get the majority, however.


95 posted on 09/03/2005 8:01:13 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Like the turtle, science makes progress only with its neck out.)
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Link:

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96 posted on 09/03/2005 8:36:55 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind'. Albert Einstein)
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To: Mount Athos

ping


97 posted on 09/03/2005 9:47:05 PM PDT by southland
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To: ElTianti

Shale may never overcome the price advantage that the Saudis currently enjoy, but unless they decide to engage in a price war, I think there is plenty of room for profit at $50-$60 per barrel. Shell says their recovery method is profitable at $30 per barrel, and that seemed to be the price break with previous methods too. They were doing a lot of shale extraction in the 1970s, and then it died off when prices fell.

My husband says that they could probably get an operation up and running in three months. Let's hope those hearings go well. This would be a real boon to the economy of the mountain states where most of the shale is located. And we could be calling the shots for once.


98 posted on 09/03/2005 9:50:05 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Brilliant
...it took them ten months to get 1,500 barrels of oil...

It was a small pilot project.

99 posted on 09/03/2005 9:51:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
...you're still going to have a percentage of them (no idea what that percentage would be) that will still want Uncle Sam to take care of them...

My premise is that they would have to apply for these jobs and be eager to move there. Anyone not cooperating, or misbehaving, would be kicked out.

100 posted on 09/03/2005 9:54:52 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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