I'd bet most of those are diesels and would still run if tried.
Posted on 09/01/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
It has nothing to do with this. I'm tired of people saying Bush needs to do more when he can't. It's exhaustion from trying to present facts to those who don't want to hear them.
The very simple point is that someone, whoever it is that has the authority, (doesn't someone?) needs to give a 'shoot to kill' order.
Neither the mayor nor the govenor has had any sense or cahones up to this point. What I'd LIKE is to send a silent, elite squad in there to hunt the streets and clean it up.
I'd bet most of those are diesels and would still run if tried.
dang....you're right.. I didn't even think of that!!!!
I mean all the supplies coming down in crates between buildings in flooded streets should be easy enough to "get".
Now you've got 10,000-30,000 people and how much water is that.. how many MRE's, and your magical aircraft... how many transport, helicopter and hell I guess you'll use gliders and blimps.. do "we" have. So now you've got to get those planes localized in a coordinated effort, find all the supplies (how many again?), arrange for ground drops locations and times, oh yeah.... get all the supplies.. you remember those... and get them to the place the planes fly out of.. or I guess you'd just pull up to the Wal-Mart or Sams Club.. then just "fly to New Orleans" look for the big scraped up dome shaped building with all the little moving dots on the roads and canal/streets/high buildings and drop 1000 to 5000 pound crates with drag chutes on top of them.
gee you are smart. Lets fax this plan to the White House... no better yet, fax it to the mayor or governor of Louisiana... that should really help.......
FYI, air drops look cool, because you see the end of them with these nice pretty parachute thingys floating down and grateful soldiers looking up and thanking the lord and airlift.. you have no clue about the planning and sheer discipline that a coordinated resupply and airdrop takes...
By the way, do you have any other great suggestions... like maybe a 'transporter'... or maybe .... forget it .. it's just Bush's fault, I KNOW IT!!!.... and Haliburtons.
Most of us don't have contempt for cops and firemen and realize that for all their faults, they are often trying to help and usually just like the rest of us.
Additionally, what good is it hounding a cop or acting beligerent to a cop? I am no candy A#$% and can probably physically kick the crap out of 75-90% of cops in unarmed combat, but that does not mean I will disrespect their position and authority when not putting my life at risk or something like that.
With what's going on there, NO needs trained men with guns, not Moms in cars. No one is forgetting those people. I don't think you grasp what the roads are like. I saw a map on one of these threads today that was stunning. Water everywhere.
Don't tell me *I* should be ashamed. Who are you to say that?
Looters and those who defend them should be ashamed.
I will say it again: anyone who was responsible for a baby or a child who refused to evacuate should be held criminally responsible.
You are a good freeper, but I would suggest that if you are disgusted with this forum that you stay away fror a few days. People have varying points of view about this unprecedented situation and will continue to sort them out and express them freely here. Regards, LH
It's a tight fit downtown surrounded by tall building and by the river.
It would be better to try and supply them along I-10 since interstates are supposed to double as runways in emergencys.
We are getting no specific information from the persons responsible. The governor has told us nothing, and FEMA has been a disappointment, to say the least. No explanations for the delay in getting people out. Are bridges down so that boats cannot ascend/descend the river? Why the slowness is getting buses into the city? The only good thing that comes out of this is that we are getting a full dress rehersal of a major terroist attack on a major city.
I wish someone would try. There was a spat last night, reported on a thread about the Natl' Guard trying to take a bus being used by police/troopers. The Natl" Guard wanted it to evacuate people. The police were using it to transport their own.
Just like any other third world country.
The Police are Sending Out an SOS...
How is this different than before Katrina? It's not like New Orleans had a low crime rate; 24 rapes per 100,000 people and 29 murders per 100,000 people annually. It's in the top 20 or so worst US cities.
>>>The military has let NO down. IMO. Period.
These are your words, correct?>>>
I'm sorry, I didn't think I needed to clarify. But since you are into picking a fight...
I would not march into a grocery store and get upset with them for dishonest advertising or what have you. I would go to the management. So let me clarify for those who are too sensitive to not understand what I meant. I am upset at the LEADERSHIP of the military in general, not the soldiers who are limited to what their LEADERS tell them to do. Or not do in this case.
WOW!!! That pictures says alot doesn't it? Just damn.
>>>I am surprised you see no connection between liberal policies and the mayhem occuring. >>>
Oh I absolutely see the connection in what the situation is. I see the liberal policies affecting the whole nation, gas included. But what I also see are elderly and children who are suffering and you can't sit back while people are dying and give a big "I told you so". You get them to safety and then do that. ;o)
All those busses......and how many might be dead? Thousands? There needs to be action against the mayor and govenor.
>>>And how many scenes have you seen where someone has built a debris fire and boiled a big pot of water so that they -- and those around them -- could have a sterilized drink?>>>
You can't boil some things out of water. YOU go ahead and drink that water that has industrial waste in it. I'll pass.
Here is where the media should be pointing out such things. The water isn't over the tops of the hoods on these buses, there is a good chance they will still work, if not your basic "duece and a quarter" or "six by" has a tow rig as part of it's basic equipement and could tow them to an area where they could be restarted or repaired.
No One is trying this.
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