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Will New Orleans survive? (Just posted on Times-Picayune web site)
New Orleans Times-Picayune ^ | August 30, 2005 | James Varney

Posted on 08/30/2005 3:53:30 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

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To: Tall_Texan

Had it not been for the 1900 Hurricane, Galveston may have been one of the largest cities in the US, and Houston would have been a suburb of Galveston.


81 posted on 08/30/2005 5:01:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lester Moore

The fundamental purpose of the government to protect the lives and property of US citizens? Isn't New Orleans part of the United States?

If the government fails to protect those citizens, either by ensuring a certain safety level or eviciting people, it isn't unreasonable that it should compensate for that failure. The only question is the size and type of compensation. I'm not talking about paying for everyone's houses, that is why we have home insurance. However, that does not rule out some government aid in the event of natural disasters.

JMHO, of course.


82 posted on 08/30/2005 5:03:54 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: bikepacker67
You'd think the greenie-environmentalists would support that because it would be returned to its origional state as a disease infested swamp.
83 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:02 PM PDT by uglybiker (Did ya hear the one about the cannibal who passed his best friend in the forest?)
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To: Dont Mention the War

how are they going to pump out the city? how do you fix a levee anyway, do you have to isolate it and then plug it?


84 posted on 08/30/2005 5:05:21 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: dfwgator
N'awelins had it's heydey, but always was on borrowed time.

I think there will be a serious debate on whether the Nation at large should fund the rebuilding NOLA on its current "mooring".

85 posted on 08/30/2005 5:05:34 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: LOC1

Galveston is built on a barrier island and not below sea level like New Orleans.


86 posted on 08/30/2005 5:06:21 PM PDT by denlittle
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To: Constantine XIII; Lester Moore

Ahem. That first sentence should read:

"The fundamental purpose of the government is to protect the lives and property of US citizens."

lol


87 posted on 08/30/2005 5:06:28 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: bikepacker67
"Move the whole shebang to higher ground, and call it New and Improved Orleans."
Actually, historical cities kept rising (by building higher and higher on their own accumulated garbage - that's why there are levels, or cultural horizons, like "Troy V", "Troy VI" etc.). To get to the street level of ancient Rome one needs digging, and rather deep. By following this archaeological precedent New Orleans will rapidly become a city on a hill, maybe even a shining city...
88 posted on 08/30/2005 5:07:18 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Lester Moore

Yeah! That's the American Spirit! Screw everybody! I'm looking out for Numero Uno Honcho!


89 posted on 08/30/2005 5:08:12 PM PDT by fhlh (.)
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To: dfwgator

True. What made Houston grow was the dredging of Galveston Bay allowing ships to dock inland, turning the area into a large sea port with (ironically) Galveston Island there as a buffer from the effects of the Gulf.

Galveston fancied itself as the cultural superior of their neighbors in the late 1800s and was the home of many of Texas' richest people.

I worked in Galveston back in the 1980s and grew up in Houston. I know the area and its history well. Galveston is, unfortunately, a neglected source of history that has become a trash bin for people to party and swim in half the year. It suffers, in some ways the same as New Orleans does, from lack of upkeep but on a lesser scale.

But there are still many who won't invest on the island for fear of what the next hurricane might do there.


90 posted on 08/30/2005 5:08:24 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Visit Club Gitmo - The World's Only Air-Conditioned Gulag.)
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To: uglybiker
You'd think the greenie-environmentalists would support that because it would be returned to its origional state as a disease infested swamp.

I've paddled the breadth of the Okefenokee, and I bet current NOLA is a helluva lot more disease infested.

91 posted on 08/30/2005 5:08:50 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Keith in Iowa
"Will New Orleans survive?"

As it exists now, mostly below sea-level?

Should it?

Should the taxpayers be on the hook for it?

No the contemporary ATLANTIS will not survive for the better interest of our people.

92 posted on 08/30/2005 5:08:58 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: GSlob
Actually, historical cities kept rising (by building higher and higher on their own accumulated garbage - that's why there are levels

They call them "tells" in the Middle East.

I assume because the tell a story?

93 posted on 08/30/2005 5:10:14 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Constantine XIII
Maybe they could turn it into an American Venice.

The Italian Venice isn't hurricane proof. It is not even tropical storm proof. Ditto the Netherlands.

94 posted on 08/30/2005 5:10:44 PM PDT by grellis (Alles mit Gott und nichts ohn' ihn)
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To: kabar

http://minneapolisfed.org/pubs/fedgaz/01-09/harm.cfm


95 posted on 08/30/2005 5:12:47 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals...they're so quixotic...)
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To: GSlob

Seriously, where do you move all that infrastructure, Baton Rouge? Basically salvage the port, and make New Orleans just a port town?


96 posted on 08/30/2005 5:12:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: uncbob

Yup. and folks who push the envelope should be kept out of the same insurance pool as the rest of us (both private and public).


97 posted on 08/30/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know . . .)
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To: WestTexasWend
Having visited Beauvoir, Jefferson Davis's home, right on the ocean in Biloxi, MS, a year or so after Camille, I'm hoping it may somehow have survived this, too, but it the odds are against it, I guess

Hate to be the bearer, but there is another thread that says it is gone.

98 posted on 08/30/2005 5:14:31 PM PDT by Ninja Taco
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To: LOC1
When Galveston was devastated by the 1906 hurricane....~.~.. It can and has been done.

Galveston would not have survived Katrina in 2005.
I've lived on Seawall and worked at Pelican Island and I know
how high the seawalls are and at what elevation the island lies.

It would not have survived.

99 posted on 08/30/2005 5:14:41 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: bikepacker67
I think there will be a serious debate on whether the Nation at large should fund the rebuilding NOLA on its current "mooring".

When they see the price tag you can bet on that debate
100 posted on 08/30/2005 5:14:48 PM PDT by uncbob
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