FReep This Poll

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[fanfan]

Thanks for the ping Alexander.

Ping to action Canadian FReepers, and FRiends!

[fanfan]

46.08 - Yes, so far...

[auntyfemenist]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?
45.77 %
Yes. It's a much better place today.
15.36 %
Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.
31.54 %
No! It's worse than before.
7.33 %
Uncertain.

[Alexander Rubin]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?
49.63 %
Yes. It's a much better place today.
16.86 %
Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.
27.18 %
No! It's worse than before.
6.33 %
Uncertain.

Keep up the good work.

[JimRed]

DU must have seen this...

I'm sure DU individuals monitor FR to counter FReeps.

[scott0347]

FReeped

49.35 % Yes. It's a much better place today.

17.62 % Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.

25.94 % No! It's worse than before.

7.09 % Uncertain.

[timsbella]

Excellent call to Freep! Done!

[fanfan]

BTTT

[Alexander Rubin]

Looks good. Keep it up guys. ;)

[george76]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?

54.64 % Yes. It's a much better place today.

19.00 % Slightly better.

18.50 % No!

7.86 % Uncertain.

[GMMAC]

Although I saw this and accordingly voted when you first posted it, I just sent the latest results out to my e-lists with this comment:

Seemingly most of the mindless Carolyn Parrish 'bash the U.S. at any price' crowd who apparently believe - maybe only in retrospect - that Saddam wasn't such a bad guy haven't yet noticed this online survey?
Why not make their day and also appall their fellow travelers in the liberal media by voting for the first choice?

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

No poll that allows self-selected respondents has any real validity. They only show the opinions of those who chose to respond. Internet polls at left-leaning sites will usually show a left-wing tilt. Vice-versa at right-leaning sites.

Only polls using random selection of respondents have any chance of being actually representative of the population at large. (Even with random selection, there are many, many ways that polls can be skewed.)

Sometimes media outlets will include a disclaimer to the effect that: "this is not a scientific poll". We are meant to read this dismissively -- i.e. "scientific" is a code word for "anal retentive". We are lead to think: "Who needs a poll collected by a bunch of clueless nerds wearing white lab coats."

Unfortunately, no matter how unrepresentative, skewed, biased, or otherwise misleading poll results are; they are widely quoted, and can have a profound effect on public opinion (the bandwagon effect). Media outlets know this -- and use these "unscientific" polls as instruments of propaganda. You will usually find a biased article, column or editorial in the same location as the poll -- just to help ensure that the poll numbers come out right.

Polls are a cheap way for media outlets to "generate news". They write a biased article, poll their readers, write another article about the poll, print selected letters to the editor, then write another article about reactions to the poll -- ad nauseam.

Election campaigns are transformed into horse races -- so much coverage is devoted to poll results that there is little space left for covering actual policy issues.

Freeping polls in left-leaning media is probably necessary to reduce the propaganda value of the polls. However, it is at best a defensive strategy. The whole concept of such polling needs to be discredited. Freepers should take every opportunity to point out the inherent weaknesses of self-selected polls.

Where poll results are favourable (say, after Freeping) -- don't crow about the numbers. Tell your liberal friends something like: "MSM polls are always biased and misleading. Even though this poll purports to show strong support for my side of (whatever debate), I am not going to cite the numbers (of course you just did -- but what the hey), because none of these polls is worth anything. I hope you remember this the next time a poll is skewed toward your side." Next time your liberal friend quotes some bogus poll; you can take the high ground, and remind him that poll results are meaningless. Then challenge him to a debate on actual facts, and issues.

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

No poll that allows self-selected respondents has any real validity. They only show the opinions of those who chose to respond. Internet polls at left-leaning sites will usually show a left-wing tilt. Vice-versa at right-leaning sites.

Only polls using random selection of respondents have any chance of being actually representative of the population at large. (Even with random selection, there are many, many ways that polls can be skewed.)

Sometimes media outlets will include a disclaimer to the effect that: "this is not a scientific poll". We are meant to read this dismissively -- i.e. "scientific" is a code word for "anal retentive". We are lead to think: "Who needs a poll collected by a bunch of clueless nerds wearing white lab coats."

Unfortunately, no matter how unrepresentative, skewed, biased, or otherwise misleading poll results are; they are widely quoted, and can have a profound effect on public opinion (the bandwagon effect). Media outlets know this -- and use these "unscientific" polls as instruments of propaganda. You will usually find a biased article, column or editorial in the same location as the poll -- just to help ensure that the poll numbers come out right.

Polls are a cheap way for media outlets to "generate news". They write a biased article, poll their readers, write another article about the poll, print selected letters to the editor, then write another article about reactions to the poll -- ad nauseam.

Election campaigns are transformed into horse races -- so much coverage is devoted to poll results that there is little space left for covering actual policy issues.

Freeping polls in left-leaning media is probably necessary to reduce the propaganda value of the polls. However, it is at best a defensive strategy. The whole concept of such polling needs to be discredited. Freepers should take every opportunity to point out the inherent weaknesses of self-selected polls.

Where poll results are favourable (say, after Freeping) -- don't crow about the numbers. Tell your liberal friends something like: "MSM polls are always biased and misleading. Even though this poll purports to show strong support for my side of (whatever debate), I am not going to cite the numbers (of course you just did -- but what the hey), because none of these polls is worth anything. I hope you remember this the next time a poll is skewed toward your side." Next time your liberal friend quotes some bogus poll; you can take the high ground, and remind him that poll results are meaningless. Then challenge him to a debate on actual facts, and issues.

[Alexander Rubin]

I am aware.

[styky]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?
67.92 %
Yes. It's a much better place today.
12.20 %
Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.
11.93 %
No! It's worse than before.
7.94 %
Uncertain.

[styky]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?
67.92 %
Yes. It's a much better place today.
12.20 %
Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.
11.93 %
No! It's worse than before.
7.94 %
Uncertain.

[fanfan]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?

71.38%

Go FReepers, and BTTT!

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[AnOldCowhand]

Do you believe the Iraqis are better off today than they were before the war began?
74.87 %
Yes. It's a much better place today.
8.45 %
Slightly better. But the number of casualties is an unacceptable price.
8.36 %
No! It's worse than before.
8.32 %
Uncertain.