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Panel on Prison Rape Hears Victims' Chilling Accounts
NY Times ^
| August 20, 2005
| CAROLYN MARSHALL
Posted on 08/20/2005 11:18:38 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: Zack Nguyen
Funny how the liberals care more about the dignity of prisoners than the dignity of their victims.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:48:04 AM PDT
by
jimbo123
To: neverdem
I wonder how many of the posters cheering for or neutral on prison rape would consider the act an intolerable mortal sin if both parties were willing participants?
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:49:50 AM PDT
by
Turbopilot
(Nothing in the above post is or should be construed as legal research, analysis, or advice.)
To: adam_az
Many are in jail for nonviolent drug offenses. Their only crime? Using an intoxicating substance other than alcohol or tobacco.
To do this, you must engage in criminal behavior to obtain drugs,
Consort with known criminals (pushers)
Often engage in criminal behavior to obtain money for drugs
Unless you are independently rich.
To: Turbopilot
Great question. Sobering that you had to ask, but it's effective.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:53:07 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: neverdem
17 percent of all inmates in federal prisons are illegal immigrants and that doesn't even include state and local jails. You want to reduce prison overcrowding, there is you answer.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:54:49 AM PDT
by
TheForceOfOne
(The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
To: Gunrunner2
If you run an FBI fingerprint check, juvenile records are available.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:54:59 AM PDT
by
marajade
(Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
To: IronJack
On a scale of 1 (yawn) to 10 (the sky is falling!), how much are we supposed to care?Well, if you give a 0.5 to Scott Peterson or Natalee Holloway or Michael Jackson, i.e., watched one minute of coverage of any of it, I'd say about an 8.0.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:55:41 AM PDT
by
jammer
To: Gunrunner2
If Rush Limbaugh goes to prison for drug abuse, does he deserve to be raped?
To: jammer
Went after the "reporters" bias that he was in effect an innocent man, just a harmless prankster and not the serious criminal that he was. Armed robbery is serious, or didn't you know. The reporter put the emotional hype in the article and I objected. Said what had happened to the bad guy was bad. The whole situation needed to be put in context--the bad guy was a bad guy, not some innocent prankster. "Strong implication". . .only for those that read fast and emote, not think.
Bye-bye, got things to do.
To: jammer
Great question. Sobering that you had to ask, but it's effective. It was, wasn't it...
Who was that man that murdered all those nurses in the 60's I believe? That video that came out when he died showed him with breast and partying with drugs and alcohol...while in prison. I wonder how many were outraged that that had happened while he was locked up. He bragged that he had more fun in prison than out.
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posted on
08/20/2005 11:59:02 AM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: Gunrunner2
Gunrunner2 said: "Hahahaha"
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:00:26 PM PDT
by
I see my hands
(Until this civil war heats up.. have a nice day.)
To: pbrown
"Who was that man that murdered all those nurses in the 60's I believe?"
Richard Speck. This is a messed up thread btw.
To: neverdem
Another take on the very concept of prison
I believe is flawed
200 years ago, no one was held in prison, except until they were sentenced
then one of 3 things happened
1. Pay a fine / removal of property / restitution
2. Physical punishment
3. Execution
The very definition of felony was to some degree established around
the presumption of execution for your deed.
To: Gunrunner2
Excuse me. What was the point of your post, then, if not to say that he deserved it? Just to mouth off to say the guy was a criminal, which we all, including the guy, knew?
No. You would not have posted unless you either had a point to make or that you were lonely and just wanted some conversation.
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:03:02 PM PDT
by
jammer
To: jammer
Those comments and attitude will go great on the liberals' posters to show how stupid conservatives are.
The stupid ones are the ones who commit crimes knowing the may have to go to prison and "toss the salad".
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:03:17 PM PDT
by
Mark was here
(My tag line was about to be censored.)
To: pbrown
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:04:07 PM PDT
by
jammer
To: happinesswithoutpeace
That's him...thanks.
You're right, it is a messed up thread.
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:04:22 PM PDT
by
processing please hold
(Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
To: neverdem
Yep. Prison....still a bad place to go.
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:04:32 PM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
To: adam_az
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:05:04 PM PDT
by
trubluolyguy
(If you think you're having a bad day, try crucifixtion.)
To: neverdem
Both cons and libs have signed off on the old-fashioned punishment of hard labor in favor of jail care. What a waste of taxpayers' money.
I say bring back the chain gang and the renting out of convict labor. This would have the dual benefit of bringing in money to the state and reducing the need for illegal immigrants. In return for good conduct, a convict would be permitted conjugal visits.
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posted on
08/20/2005 12:05:11 PM PDT
by
trane250
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