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The China Bubble: part one
Macleans(Canada) ^ | Aug. 15, 2005 | Andrea Mandel-Campbell

Posted on 08/19/2005 9:02:46 AM PDT by headsonpikes

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To: Amalie

If the Chinese banks collapse, they will stop buying our debt. (treasuries)
If they stop buying our debt, interest rates will rise. (even more)
It interest rates rise, people will stop buying houses here.
If people stop buying houses, the housing bubble will pop.
If the housing bubble pops, people will stop buying Chinese goods.
It's all very "iffy". We'll probably see how the economic weather changes and what's to come shortly.


21 posted on 08/19/2005 3:56:28 PM PDT by Patangeles
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To: Rockingham

"Thanks. I have come to recognize a standard editorial formula for such stories: lay out a financial doomsday scenario and then get experts to comment on whether it "could" happen. There are always experts available who will play along, flattered by press attention or thinking publicity useful to their careers.

String together several apocalyptic comments and our prosperity can be made to seem fragile and endangered by adverse changes in most anything: Shanghai port loadings; reserve Saudi oil capacity; LIBOR schedules; Japanese patent filings; drought in the Sahara; and so on.

Uhhh, what about the American economy? What about domestic business conditions, the money supply, and the burdens of taxes, regulation, and politically driven misinvestment and financial bubbles? Dull, dull, dull. A foreign scare makes for better reading does it not?"

Very well put indeed. America is bar none the best financial market to invest in. Period. I don't see that changing in the next 20 years so any other fear-driven speculation is politically motivated.


22 posted on 08/22/2005 10:16:30 AM PDT by quantfive
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To: headsonpikes

If oil becomes as scarce and costly as many predict, it will be cheaper to make things closer to home than to ship them across oceans and continents.


23 posted on 08/22/2005 11:08:36 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

If if if...

Oil is most likely due for a correction down from the $66+ range it's in today. I say that as an owner of Athabasca Tar Sands stock. ;^)

As oil pushes up, a geometrically growing range of substitutes presents itself, both for oil as fuel and oil as a source for 'chemicals'.

Note how with oil at $40+, the vast reserves of the Alberta tar sands become known exploitable resources - far more than the Saudis have. If $80+ became buildable into feasibility studies, even more substitutes for light crude become economic enterprises, including Wyoming's shale oil.

On the theme of the posted article, I'd say that one ought to concede that there is a Chinese Bubble, fueled by reckless and political lending practices. As to whether a Chinese Crash would crater World markets and the World economy, I'm sceptical. The Chinese stock market has already discounted a good deal of the sickness in the Commie economy.

OTOH, such a debacle could precipitate either a militarist 'auto-coup' in Red China, or an honest-to-God revolution.


24 posted on 08/22/2005 12:01:16 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: untenured

They ran out of fuel a little while ago....tell me that wont slow down the sales of Buick Sails!


25 posted on 08/22/2005 12:04:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (@)
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As oil pushes up, a geometrically growing range of substitutes presents itself, both for oil as fuel and oil as a source for 'chemicals'.

And so as I said:

As the price of fuel increases, it will be cheaper to make things closer to home than to ship them across oceans and continents.

26 posted on 08/22/2005 3:11:00 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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